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Baric Transcribed Interview (Redacted), p.108 · baric_ti:utt:00927

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Date
2026-04-10 09:00 (day precision)
Type
transcript segment · interview
recipient
Christina Salazar, Harry Kazenoff, David T. Lambeth III, William Henderson, Clark Ervin, Jake Greenberg
speaker
Ralph S. Baric
Amy Sims left the lab right before the pandemic started.

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  1. 2026-04-10 09:00 Ralph S. Baric open
    Yeah, hindsight is always 20/20 in this case. So you can look at a document and say why can't I remember.
  2. 2026-04-10 09:00 Christina Salazar open
    No. I mean, I think part of the conversation, though, for a long time, was, I mean, the debate over whether it was a natural original, a lab leak, you know, accidental or not. I mean, this was a conversation that was happening in the public. There were multiple papers authored. We had Proximal Origins. People were shamed and called conspiracy theorists. I mean, is that not true?
  3. 2026-04-10 09:00 Ralph S. Baric open
    That's true.
  4. 2026-04-10 09:00 Christina Salazar open
    I mean, my understanding is you received threats. You know, like it's not like no one was talking about this. And, you know, even if you may not have remembered it, how many people were on that grant? Amy Sims, so she never said, "Oh, remember that grant that we were on?"
  5. 2026-04-10 09:00 Ralph S. Baric
    Amy Sims left the lab right before the pandemic started.
  6. 2026-04-10 09:00 Christina Salazar open
    Have you ever spoken to her since?
  7. 2026-04-10 09:00 Ralph S. Baric open
    Off and on, yeah.
  8. 2026-04-10 09:00 Christina Salazar open
    And she never raised it with you? DC.Scheduling@LexitasLegal.com
  9. 2026-04-10 09:00 Ralph S. Baric open
    No, she didn't.

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