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Slack / Private Message Drop, p.1069 [SLACK_001283] · slack_pm:msg:11139

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Date
2022-01-20 13:37
Type
chat message · slack
recipient
Kristian G. Andersen, Robert F. Garry, Andrew Rambaut
speaker
Edward C. Holmes

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:+1: And I don't remember the bit in PO1 where we mention conspiracy theories

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  1. 2022-01-20 13:01 Edward C. Holmes open
    It is surreal to know the exact truth and yet everyone else think something different.
  2. 2022-01-20 13:17 Kristian G. Andersen open
    Yeah, I keep telling people this - it's really surreal to be inside a major conspiracy theory and having all the facts soyou can see exactly how crazy all of this is. It's pretty interesting - if it wasn't so fucked!
  3. 2022-01-20 13:24 Robert F. Garry open
    I'm pretty sure that Madeleine is not going to quote the ABC News piece or reveal the whole national academies thing. That little bit of backstory needs not to be relegated to the trashbin of history.
  4. 2022-01-20 13:32 Kristian G. Andersen open
    I updated my email to her a little... ```I can only speak for our own investigations, however the idea that any of our investigations were influenced bypolitics or political ramifications of particular hypotheses is false. As an expert having worked on viral origin/emergence questions for more than a decade, such conspiracy theories are, frankly, absurd and insulting. The idea that there was a "prefered narrative" and that people like Drs. Fauci and Farrar had influence over our scientific conclusions (i.e., the idea that there is a conspiracy) is also false - which is clear from e.g., FOIA'd emails and news articles at the time. For example, it is public knowledge that the "origin question" was directly discussed at the levelof the White House immediately following the February 1 teleconference - e.g.:https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/white-house-asks-scientists-investigate-origins-coronavirus/story?id=68807304ABCABChttps://www.nationalacademies.org/news/2020/02/national-academies-provide-rapid-response-to-white-house-on-coronavirus-data-needsAs others have already stated, our conclusions - published in two peer reviewed scientific papers - have been driven strictly by science. That was true in 2020 when the pandemic started and that is true today. Any suggestions to the contrary are false and insulting. Our earlier conclusions have only been further strengthened by additional scientific evidence and analyses - and e.g., the absence of evidence from the recently completed investigations by the USintelligence community. Our research to more fully understand the origin of SARS-CoV-2 is ongoing. For hypotheses that have been "unduly influenced" by "political ramifications" you need look no further than the current narrative around the "lab leak" theory or the many conspiracy theories currently being amplified bynon-experts, including the ones suggesting that scientific investigations were "unduly influenced by the political ramifications of the hypothesis".I look forward to reading your article - which I trust will be based on science and not untrue conspiracy theories. Best, Kristian```
  5. 2022-01-20 13:37 Edward C. Holmes
    :+1: And I don't remember the bit in PO1 where we mention conspiracy theories
  6. 2022-01-20 13:38 Kristian G. Andersen open
    Nope - we didn't. Maybe we should have...
  7. 2022-01-20 13:39 Edward C. Holmes open
    The irony is that Madeleine is in fact invoking a conspiracy to shut down a conspiracy
  8. 2022-01-20 13:39 Kristian G. Andersen open
    Yup - I point that out to her.
  9. 2022-01-20 13:40 Edward C. Holmes open
    I expect a torrent of shit on Twitter

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