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Slack / Private Message Drop, p.931 [SLACK_001145] · slack_pm:msg:09682

Date: 2021-06-07 16:28
Type: chat message · slack
recipient: Kristian G. Andersen, Robert F. Garry, Andrew Rambaut
speaker: Edward C. Holmes
Topics: Natural origin / zoonotic spillover Wuhan Institute of Virology collaboration

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I hate to keep going on about it, but the claim that WIV were working on pangolins pretty much proves they are lying

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I hate to keep going on about it, but the claim that WIV were working on pangolins pretty much proves they are lying	own voice, substantive	speaker_own	asserts

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I hate to keep going on about it, but the claim that WIV were working on pangolins pretty much proves they are lying

own voice, substantive

speaker_own

asserts

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2021-06-07 16:08 Robert F. Garry open

For Ian the conversion would be simple. Pimple to pimp.
2021-06-07 16:22 Robert F. Garry open

Posting this likely to proved the ComSimp label, but: https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2021/06/01/wuha-j02.html One of the reporters mentioned Michael R Gordon - He did the WSJ article on the supposed intel about the 2-3 sick WIV employees - linked to David Asher and Mike Pompeo. He and the other reporter wrote a story in the NYT that was a major factor in US starting the first Iraq War. This was Judith K Miller. Here from the Wiki: "_The New York Times_ determined that several stories she wrote about Iraq were inaccurate, and she was forced to resign from the paper in 2005.[2] According to commentator Ken Silverstein, Miller's Iraq reporting "effectively ended her career as arespectable journalist".[6]" We've seen this script before.
2021-06-07 16:27 Kristian G. Andersen open

WSWS isn't exactly my main go to for news, but they have had a few really good articles lately. Hippies fightingback!
2021-06-07 16:27 Robert F. Garry open

Gordon, Wade, McNeill - starting to see a bit of a pattern...the guy that busted Gordon/Miller - Robert Parry - can't make that up. https://consortiumnews.com/2014/04/21/another-nyt-michael-gordon-special/
2021-06-07 16:28 Edward C. Holmes

I hate to keep going on about it, but the claim that WIV were working on pangolins pretty much proves they are lying
2021-06-07 16:31 Robert F. Garry open

Parry died in 2018 - another investigative journalist Brian Deer [the one that took down Wakefield] possibly could give this a go.
2021-06-07 17:16 Kristian G. Andersen open

Good to see Jason on it - and also with quotes from Mike. This is *very strictly* between us, but here's a snippetfrom an email exchange I had with Mike earlier today...I say we get him to sign our letter... [shared file(s): Screen Shot 2021-06-07 at 5.15.02 PM.png]
2021-06-07 17:26 Edward C. Holmes open

Huge!
2021-06-07 17:27 Edward C. Holmes open

He's just emailed me

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