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Date
2021-05-27 16:44
Type
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recipient
Kristian G. Andersen, Robert F. Garry, Andrew Rambaut
speaker
Edward C. Holmes

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This is extraordinary: https://www.smh.com.au/national/where-did-covid-come-from-the-case-for-a-leak-of-a-virus-engineered-in-a-wuhan-lab-20210526-p57vgt.html

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  1. 2021-05-27 15:56 Edward C. Holmes open
    Not great though. What do you make of this? Surely nobody is reading Yan's report? [shared file(s): Screen Shot 2021-05-28 at 8.54.53 am.png]
  2. 2021-05-27 15:58 Robert F. Garry open
    https://cnnphilippines.com/world/2021/5/25/WHO-China-overlooked-data.html Good guy Nick Paton Walsh, CNN also doing some - well - reporting . It relevant to the 2-3 cases from David Ashers "intel" "Leaked documents reported by CNN revealed the flu outbreak in December of 2019, showing a significant spike in Wuhan but also other cities in Hubei at the end of that year. The cause and consequences of the outbreak of influenza-like illnessesremains unclear. The source said the spike showed "there was a large influenza outbreak happening more or less at the same time"as the emergence of the coronavirus. The simultaneous emergence of the influenza outbreak with the first cases ofthe virus "explains the difficulties of identifying Covid cases in December and early January," said the source. Itremains unclear the impact the influenza spike had on detecting the first cases of the novel coronavirus."
  3. 2021-05-27 16:00 Edward C. Holmes open
    Yes, I might have a chat to Nick.
  4. 2021-05-27 16:03 Robert F. Garry open
    THat's a good idea - one of the few no nonsense types left (Ed Yong waiting for you to get your hands "dirty")- Tell him the Science editorial staff are acting irrationally....:slightly_smiling_face:
  5. 2021-05-27 16:44 Edward C. Holmes
    This is extraordinary: https://www.smh.com.au/national/where-did-covid-come-from-the-case-for-a-leak-of-a-virus-engineered-in-a-wuhan-lab-20210526-p57vgt.html
  6. 2021-05-27 16:45 Edward C. Holmes open
    This statement "In particular, we know from her published work that Shi had successfully been inserting furin cleavage sites into viruses to make them more infective" strikes me a bare-faced lie.
  7. 2021-05-27 17:16 Edward C. Holmes open
    I can't believe they published this! If I can show that they did not use FCS then I can embarrass this idiot.
  8. 2021-05-27 17:48 Robert F. Garry open
    *No relevant priors?* Clive Hamilton is a professor at Charles Sturt University in Canberra and author of Hidden Hand: Exposing How the Chinese Communist Party is Reshaping the World.
  9. 2021-05-27 17:56 Kristian G. Andersen open
    I don't know of Shi having engineered FCSs - and that article seems like pure fiction, top to bottom, of somebody who's bought into the Wade bullshit.

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