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Slack / Private Message Drop, p.874 [SLACK_001088] · slack_pm:msg:09061

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Date
2021-05-25 19:24
Type
chat message · slack
recipient
Robert F. Garry, Edward C. Holmes, Andrew Rambaut
speaker
Kristian G. Andersen
Topics
Natural origin / zoonotic spillover

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Yeah - that's what SARS-CoV-2 did. It jumped out of a tube and into a person. And then it caused a super spreading event at a wet market. And then the pandemic. Simple, really.I was kinda hoping Alex would go in for the kill... Good thing Andrew is asleep.

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  1. 2021-05-25 19:18 Kristian G. Andersen open
    I called it a "very specific version of natural emergence" (and hence hugely unlikely). He didn't like that very much.
  2. 2021-05-25 19:18 Kristian G. Andersen open
    He's being absolutely swarmed at the moment though, so not really fair to him - but I gotta say, boy oh boy is the stuff he says naive.
  3. 2021-05-25 19:20 Kristian G. Andersen open
    Look at the last tweet in that thread too. Bringing up bacteria... ANYBODY with a little bit of knowledge would look atthat and say "wait, what, he doesn't even understand the basics"?Unreal. I really respect Marc a lot - as in, a lot. But this is uninformed and naive. [shared file(s): Screen Shot2021-05-25 at 7.19.25 PM.png]
  4. 2021-05-25 19:22 Edward C. Holmes open
    Isolating bacteria in live animals? WTF?
  5. 2021-05-25 19:24 Kristian G. Andersen
    Yeah - that's what SARS-CoV-2 did. It jumped out of a tube and into a person. And then it caused a super spreading event at a wet market. And then the pandemic. Simple, really.I was kinda hoping Alex would go in for the kill... Good thing Andrew is asleep.
  6. 2021-05-25 19:30 Edward C. Holmes open
    Just supreme arrogance. The other question is where this will all end? Will China seriously allow another, more detailed investigation? I think not. SLACK_001089
  7. 2021-05-25 19:30 Kristian G. Andersen open
    Of course they will Eddie - don't be daft. They'll welcome us with open arms and Zhengli will head the welcome committee.
  8. 2021-05-25 19:30 Robert F. Garry open
    Just had a long talk (70 minutes) with Carl Zimmer - brought up some of these points.
  9. 2021-05-25 19:30 Kristian G. Andersen open
    Good. Let's hope this can get back on track - but I'm not hopeful in the short term.

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