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Slack / Private Message Drop, p.795 [SLACK_001009] · slack_pm:msg:08261

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Date
2021-05-13 12:24
Type
chat message · slack
recipient
Kristian G. Andersen, Robert F. Garry, Edward C. Holmes
speaker
Andrew Rambaut

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The lab escape idea is not a scientific hypothesis - it is an allegation. It can't be investigated by scientific methods because were it true it would also imply a cover-up which by definition is to avoid discovery.

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  1. 2021-05-13 12:04 Kristian G. Andersen open
    He also sets up a false balance between Wade and myself - my Twitter thread wasn't merely a "On the other side" -it destroys his argument with actual data.
  2. 2021-05-13 12:14 Robert F. Garry open
    Opens the door for a counter letter or tech comment. _I for one would like to see @Andrew Rambaut math in print.
  3. 2021-05-13 12:19 Kristian G. Andersen open
    Same...
  4. 2021-05-13 12:24 Andrew Rambaut
    The lab escape idea is not a scientific hypothesis - it is an allegation. It can't be investigated by scientific methods because were it true it would also imply a cover-up which by definition is to avoid discovery.
  5. 2021-05-13 12:27 Kristian G. Andersen open
    Let's put a Science logo on that and we're done :wink:.
  6. 2021-05-13 12:30 Andrew Rambaut open
    I am not sure about presenting the maths up front but we can use it to hone our arguments. The point is that collecting samples have no way of enriching for human transmissible viruses so they have one in a million shot offinding one. Carnivores are act like a filter - selecting at source for transmissible viruses.
  7. 2021-05-13 12:47 Robert F. Garry open
    WHO and PD noticed... [shared file(s): image.png]
  8. 2021-05-13 12:47 Andrew Rambaut open
    The editor of science is inviting a scientific 'debate' in his mag. Why don't we see if Nature is interested in acommentary written as a sub-tweet

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