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Slack / Private Message Drop, p.737 [SLACK_000951] · slack_pm:msg:07713

Date: 2021-04-29 13:58
Type: chat message · slack
mentioned: Andrew Rambaut
recipient: Robert F. Garry, Edward C. Holmes, Andrew Rambaut
speaker: Kristian G. Andersen
Topics: Awards, honoraria and recognition

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Reminds me of when Bob and I nominated @Andrew Rambaut for the Research Parasite Awards. With a paragraph like this, I don't understand how he didn't win ```Prof. Rambaut has many years of brilliant research parasitism - never having produced a single (real) dataset in his life!! To really rub it in, he's also the creator of many successful software packages (including, BEAST, FigTree, Tracer, TreeStat, and TempEst (formerly Path-O-Gen)) used by other Research Parasites, which facilitates parasitism by making it easy to find interesting stuff in other people's data. Via his software and publications, he has therefore managed to infiltrate the whole scientific community like a seniored cuckoo with novel insights, brilliant data analyses, and just overall parasitism. As data producers we resent that and our only consolation is that he hasn't really been able to place his manuscripts in any of the proper journals. The ones we have picked above were published in a journal called 'Nature', which is kinda a lame name (how vague can you possibly be?) for a journal trying to publish anything of real scientific importance.``` [shared file(s): rambaut_dudas.pdf]

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2021-04-29 13:53 Edward C. Holmes open

Perhaps we could have an annual Zoonot award for strenuous supporting over the year.
2021-04-29 13:58 Kristian G. Andersen

Reminds me of when Bob and I nominated @Andrew Rambaut for the Research Parasite Awards. With a paragraph like this, I don't understand how he didn't win ```Prof. Rambaut has many years of brilliant research parasitism - never having produced a single (real) dataset in his life!! To really rub it in, he's also the creator of many successful software packages (including, BEAST, FigTree, Tracer, TreeStat, and TempEst (formerly Path-O-Gen)) used by other Research Parasites, which facilitates parasitism by making it easy to find interesting stuff in other people's data. Via his software and publications, he has therefore managed to infiltrate the whole scientific community like a seniored cuckoo with novel insights, brilliant data analyses, and just overall parasitism. As data producers we resent that and our only consolation is that he hasn't really been able to place his manuscripts in any of the proper journals. The ones we have picked above were published in a journal called 'Nature', which is kinda a lame name (how vague can you possibly be?) for a journal trying to publish anything of real scientific importance.``` [shared file(s): rambaut_dudas.pdf]
2021-04-29 13:59 Kristian G. Andersen open

_"As data producers we resent that and our only consolation is that he hasn't really been able to place his manuscripts in any of the proper journals"._ Damn straight.
2021-04-29 14:01 Edward C. Holmes open

Richly deserved. I've seen quite a few contenders for junior parasite though.
2021-04-29 14:03 Kristian G. Andersen open

Correct. May they never be able to publish their drivel.
2021-04-29 14:30 Edward C. Holmes open

Got GIPA #3 yesterday. GIPA #1 is going to court which seems daft as if it only a few emails between myself and George Gao although there is one fruity where I urge him not to punish Zhang. I'm not sure if this would have any consequences. Our emails are #2.

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