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Date
2021-03-30 09:34
Type
chat message · slack
recipient
Kristian G. Andersen, Edward C. Holmes, Andrew Rambaut
speaker
Robert F. Garry
Topics
Intelligence community assessmentsNatural origin / zoonotic spillover

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Amy: https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-00865-8"Plenty of animals were sold at the Huanan market. December 2019 records list poultry, badgers, rabbits, giant salamanders, two kinds of crocodiles and more. Chinese officials said that the market didn't sell live mammals or illegal wildlife, the report adds, but also references unverifiedmedia reports suggesting that it did, along with photos that Holmes published after a trip there in 2014, of animals such as live raccoon dogs."

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Chinese officials said that the market didn't sell live mammals or illegal wildlife, the report adds, but also references unverifiedmedia reports suggesting that it did, along with photos that Holmes published after a trip there in 2014, of animals such as live raccoon dogs." quoted / not their view quoted_external inside quotation marks asserts

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  1. 2021-03-30 08:26 Kristian G. Andersen open
    They are(ish) in the RBD
  2. 2021-03-30 08:43 Robert F. Garry open
    https://www.who.int/director-general/speeches/detail/who-director-general-s-remark[...]rt-of-the-international-team-studying-the-origins-of-sars-cov-2. The team also visited several laboratories in Wuhan and considered the possibility that the virus entered the human population as a result of a laboratory incident.*However, I do not believe that this assessment was extensive enough.* Further data and studies will be needed toreach more robust conclusions. Although the team has concluded that a laboratory leak is the least likely hypothesis, this requires further investigation, potentially with additional missions involving specialist experts, which I am ready to deploy.We will keep you informed as plans progress, and as always, we very much welcome your input. Let me say clearly that as far as WHO is concerned all hypotheses remain on the table.
  3. 2021-03-30 09:00 Kristian G. Andersen open
    I guess he had to say that - and I can't really disagree with that statement. As long as we stick to the science - and not bs speculation.
  4. 2021-03-30 09:09 Robert F. Garry open
    Agree - this sounds like pressure from ---- the Biden Administration.
  5. 2021-03-30 09:34 Robert F. Garry
    Amy: https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-00865-8"Plenty of animals were sold at the Huanan market. December 2019 records list poultry, badgers, rabbits, giant salamanders, two kinds of crocodiles and more. Chinese officials said that the market didn't sell live mammals or illegal wildlife, the report adds, but also references unverifiedmedia reports suggesting that it did, along with photos that Holmes published after a trip there in 2014, of animals such as live raccoon dogs."
  6. 2021-03-30 09:35 Robert F. Garry open
    Good job @Eddie Holmes
  7. 2021-03-30 09:42 Robert F. Garry open
    Jamie - not so much https://www.msn.com/en-us/video/other/who-report-on-covid-19-origin-inconclusive-calls-for-further-studies/vi-BB1f7WB8?ocid=BingNewsSearch
  8. 2021-03-30 09:42 Robert F. Garry open
    good lord
  9. 2021-03-30 09:48 Kristian G. Andersen open
    "Gag order on scientists". What KIND of COUNTRY would do something like that? Geez.

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