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Slack / Private Message Drop, p.582 [SLACK_000796] · slack_pm:msg:06086

Date: 2021-03-10 04:56
Type: chat message · slack
recipient: Kristian G. Andersen, Edward C. Holmes, Andrew Rambaut
speaker: Robert F. Garry

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I think it's GREAT that Eddie's pics might be the smoking gun of the "forensic" evidence that WHO collects. The ppl that had SC2 at the market were not likely to have been shedding so much virus that it ended up on a sewer grate under an animal cage. Very likely then that SC2 was in animals. Good for Koopmans pointing out the low Cts making it likely that it was animals. If traders were bringing infected animals to this market they were likely bring infected animals to other markets as well. Coupled with the facts that there was a period of undetected circulation this easily explains why cases not liked to the Hubei market also showed up. NO early cases linked to a lab - lots ofcases linked to the market - lab theory out the window.

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2021-03-10 04:38 Robert F. Garry open

Perfect - have progress on updating figures for our virological post. Can do this after they appear on GSAID.
2021-03-10 04:56 Robert F. Garry

I think it's GREAT that Eddie's pics might be the smoking gun of the "forensic" evidence that WHO collects. The ppl that had SC2 at the market were not likely to have been shedding so much virus that it ended up on a sewer grate under an animal cage. Very likely then that SC2 was in animals. Good for Koopmans pointing out the low Cts making it likely that it was animals. If traders were bringing infected animals to this market they were likely bring infected animals to other markets as well. Coupled with the facts that there was a period of undetected circulation this easily explains why cases not liked to the Hubei market also showed up. NO early cases linked to a lab - lots ofcases linked to the market - lab theory out the window.
2021-03-10 05:28 Andrew Rambaut open

Yes - this is what I was saying back in January last year - it was not going to be a single animal in a single place. Likely in a number of places and maintain in the animals as new ones are brought in.

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