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Slack / Private Message Drop, p.533 [SLACK_000747] · slack_pm:msg:05552

Date: 2021-02-20 15:18
Type: chat message · slack
recipient: Kristian G. Andersen, Edward C. Holmes, Andrew Rambaut
speaker: Robert F. Garry
Topics: Wuhan Institute of Virology collaboration Natural origin / zoonotic spillover

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(i) I think one could sense a little tension when Tedros said all hypotheses were still open. Not too surprising they can't agree on precise wording, but unfortunately delays fueling up the tinfoil hats. Would not be surprised if there wasn't a bit of pushback from multiple govts. (ii) One presumes Embarek is clearing things with WHO. Dazak is aloose cannon - sorta held it together for a NYTimes interview - otherwise not so good. (iii) I'm guessing a lot ofpeople have links to various wet markets. What's perhaps just as relevant - the missing of any link to WIV. IF there were links of ANY of the early cases to WIV or any other labs in Wuhan I am dubious that this could be covered upeven in China. Not impossible, but I believe unlikely. But yeah investigate the heck or of those early cases (iv)Investigate the animals too! I'm still waiting for then to go in with Lin-Fa's ACE2BOB assay and look foranti-sarbecovirus Abs in animals in YN, GD and further south.

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(iii) I'm guessing a lot ofpeople have links to various wet markets.	own voice, substantive	speaker_own	asserts
IF there were links of ANY of the early cases to WIV or any other labs in Wuhan I am dubious that this could be covered upeven in China.	quoted / not their view	hypothetical conditional framing	asserts

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(iii) I'm guessing a lot ofpeople have links to various wet markets.

own voice, substantive

speaker_own

asserts

IF there were links of ANY of the early cases to WIV or any other labs in Wuhan I am dubious that this could be covered upeven in China.

quoted / not their view

hypothetical conditional framing

asserts

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2021-02-20 15:15 Andrew Rambaut open

They are leaking on behalf of CCP
2021-02-20 15:15 Andrew Rambaut open

Or it was frozen salmon or something
2021-02-20 15:17 Kristian G. Andersen open

Haha.
2021-02-20 15:18 Kristian G. Andersen open

Just enough edge to not come directly from the CCP :wink:
2021-02-20 15:18 Robert F. Garry

(i) I think one could sense a little tension when Tedros said all hypotheses were still open. Not too surprising they can't agree on precise wording, but unfortunately delays fueling up the tinfoil hats. Would not be surprised if there wasn't a bit of pushback from multiple govts. (ii) One presumes Embarek is clearing things with WHO. Dazak is aloose cannon - sorta held it together for a NYTimes interview - otherwise not so good. (iii) I'm guessing a lot ofpeople have links to various wet markets. What's perhaps just as relevant - the missing of any link to WIV. IF there were links of ANY of the early cases to WIV or any other labs in Wuhan I am dubious that this could be covered upeven in China. Not impossible, but I believe unlikely. But yeah investigate the heck or of those early cases (iv)Investigate the animals too! I'm still waiting for then to go in with Lin-Fa's ACE2BOB assay and look foranti-sarbecovirus Abs in animals in YN, GD and further south.
2021-02-20 15:39 Kristian G. Andersen open

@Robert Garry - are the figures for the google doc available somewhere?
2021-02-20 15:42 Robert F. Garry open

Fig 2 [shared file(s): CoV Mosaic v3 minus HA379-363 copy.pdf]
2021-02-20 15:42 Robert F. Garry open

Fig 1
2021-02-20 15:44 Robert F. Garry open

Fig 1 [shared file(s): new asian bat covs 2-6-21a copy.pdf]

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