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Slack / Private Message Drop, p.533 [SLACK_000747] · slack_pm:msg:05545

Date: 2021-02-20 14:55
Type: chat message · slack
recipient: Kristian G. Andersen, Robert F. Garry, Andrew Rambaut
speaker: Edward C. Holmes
Topics: Natural origin / zoonotic spillover China relations and data access

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Sorry, I need catch-up. Just been chatting with my mate at CNN. Confidentially: (i) the WHO report is going to bedelayed a bit; (ii) Peter Embarek and Daszak seem to be leaking stuff to the press (my mate reckons that Daszak may have burned his bridges with China); (iii) in turns out that the 1st documented patient is in fact Dec 8th and not Dec 1st. The parents of that patient have a link to a different wet market in Wuhan. Not sure if that means anything;(iv) there were seemingly 10 animal vendors at the Huanan market and apparently the Chinese have not tested animals from the base of the chain that leads to these vendors...the base is animals from southern China (Yunnan, Guangdong etc.). The WHO will recommend that (iii) and (iv) should be investigated further and it seems amazing they have not...or they have and are not telling.

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Statement	Grade	Attribution	Stance
The parents of that patient have a link to a different wet market in Wuhan.	own voice, substantive	speaker_own	asserts
Not sure if that means anything;(iv) there were seemingly 10 animal vendors at the Huanan market and apparently the Chinese have not tested animals from the base of the chain that leads to these vendors...the base is animals from southern China (Yunnan, Guangdong etc.).	needs context	uncertain explicit hedge	questions

Statement

Grade

Attribution

Stance

The parents of that patient have a link to a different wet market in Wuhan.

own voice, substantive

speaker_own

asserts

Not sure if that means anything;(iv) there were seemingly 10 animal vendors at the Huanan market and apparently the Chinese have not tested animals from the base of the chain that leads to these vendors...the base is animals from southern China (Yunnan, Guangdong etc.).

needs context

uncertain explicit hedge

questions

In context

A single line often inverts meaning once you see what it answers, so neighbouring messages are always shown.

2021-02-20 14:55 Edward C. Holmes

Sorry, I need catch-up. Just been chatting with my mate at CNN. Confidentially: (i) the WHO report is going to bedelayed a bit; (ii) Peter Embarek and Daszak seem to be leaking stuff to the press (my mate reckons that Daszak may have burned his bridges with China); (iii) in turns out that the 1st documented patient is in fact Dec 8th and not Dec 1st. The parents of that patient have a link to a different wet market in Wuhan. Not sure if that means anything;(iv) there were seemingly 10 animal vendors at the Huanan market and apparently the Chinese have not tested animals from the base of the chain that leads to these vendors...the base is animals from southern China (Yunnan, Guangdong etc.). The WHO will recommend that (iii) and (iv) should be investigated further and it seems amazing they have not...or they have and are not telling.
2021-02-20 15:12 Kristian G. Andersen open

Oh, very exciting - thanks for the update Eddie! This bit "the base is animals from southern China" is key - and I think something Peter was excited about as well.
2021-02-20 15:14 Andrew Rambaut open

But they would say that wouldn't they.
2021-02-20 15:15 Andrew Rambaut open

They are leaking on behalf of CCP
2021-02-20 15:15 Andrew Rambaut open

Or it was frozen salmon or something

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