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Slack / Private Message Drop, p.491 [SLACK_000705] · slack_pm:msg:05122

Date: 2021-02-06 09:31
Type: chat message · slack
recipient: Kristian G. Andersen, Edward C. Holmes, Andrew Rambaut
speaker: Robert F. Garry
Topics: Furin cleavage site and molecular features

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Alina is still in love with her notion that the virus was "already well adapted to humans" when the first cases were detected based on dN/dS. Yet, we know the virus infects minks, ferrets, dogs, cats, lions, gorillas, rodents as well asit infects humans. Doug and the VoC that have followed show that SC2 and its RBD and FCS are still adapting to us.

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Doug and the VoC that have followed show that SC2 and its RBD and FCS are still adapting to us.	own voice, substantive	speaker_own	asserts

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2021-02-06 08:43 Kristian G. Andersen open

"just make their arguments seem daft" Excatly
2021-02-06 08:43 Kristian G. Andersen open

And when you break it down - all they have is the fact that this was detected in Wuhan. That's literally it.
2021-02-06 08:44 Andrew Rambaut open

Yes.
2021-02-06 08:44 Andrew Rambaut open

And that is why they are so anti any idea of a previous history of circulation or cases in Europe in November etc.
2021-02-06 09:31 Robert F. Garry

Alina is still in love with her notion that the virus was "already well adapted to humans" when the first cases were detected based on dN/dS. Yet, we know the virus infects minks, ferrets, dogs, cats, lions, gorillas, rodents as well asit infects humans. Doug and the VoC that have followed show that SC2 and its RBD and FCS are still adapting to us.
2021-02-06 09:34 Kristian G. Andersen open

I think they forget that SC1 != SC2. They're literally basing that entire argument on n=1. I told her this many many months ago (gave her an example from Ebola - which looks like SC2.... mysterious!), but I guess it doesn't fit the narrative very well.
2021-02-06 09:53 Robert F. Garry open

Do you remember the big deal that was made about how Shi did not mention the FCS in her first SC2 paper? Did I miss it? Where in the Chan-Ridley paper is the mention of the FCS that definitely proves SC2 is man-made?
2021-02-06 09:53 Robert F. Garry open

Guess they forgot FCS too.
2021-02-06 09:54 Kristian G. Andersen open

Moving the goal post. Constantly.

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