COVID-19 Records

Chat message

Slack / Private Message Drop, p.422 [SLACK_000636] · slack_pm:msg:04363

Page text: p.422 · original PDF

Date
2021-01-19 01:25
Type
chat message · slack
recipient
Kristian G. Andersen, Robert F. Garry, Andrew Rambaut
speaker
Edward C. Holmes

Recipients on this medium are inferred from channel membership, not per-message addressing.

Why did not a single person in the world see the sequences on the 10th? Something does not make sense here at all.

In context

A single line often inverts meaning once you see what it answers, so neighbouring messages are always shown.

  1. 2021-01-19 00:43 Andrew Rambaut open
    This suggests the genomes were already publicly available for 24 hours when you posted to virological, Eddie.
  2. 2021-01-19 01:14 Edward C. Holmes open
    Can he prove this: "George's alert gave us a chance to prepare, and gave our technical team time to set up an HTML area. We received the first 3x genomes and metadata in the afternoon of January 9th at 3:29 pm PST (2020-01-09 23:29 UTC). Two of these genomes, HB-01 and HB-05, were released on GISAID after processing, a little more than an hour later, at 4:41 pm PST and 4:44 pm PST (2020-01-10 0:41 UTC and 2020-01-10 0:44 UTC), respectively."
  3. 2021-01-19 01:19 Edward C. Holmes open
    This is wrong: "Science News stated: "10 January Genetic sequence posted to virological.org", while Nature News states that the first sequence was posted on the website virological.org on 11 January 2020. Neither news organization had done even the most basic research, and did not realize that there were discrepancies in reports ofwhen and where the first coronavirus sequences were released to the world." That's just the time zone difference between Australia and elsewhere.
  4. 2021-01-19 01:24 Edward C. Holmes open
    This note from HK also says the 12th as does the stuff from the WHO. [shared file(s): Screen Shot 2021-01-19 at 8.22.42 pm.png]
  5. 2021-01-19 01:25 Edward C. Holmes
    Why did not a single person in the world see the sequences on the 10th? Something does not make sense here at all.
  6. 2021-01-19 01:25 Andrew Rambaut open
    The post was on the 11th at about 1am GMT - the posting has at the top the 10th because that is when we started towrite it (of course it was already the 11th in Australia and China then). So that is probably the confusion about your post.
  7. 2021-01-19 01:26 Andrew Rambaut open
    I know. And no one at GISAID, CCDC, WHO made any announcement until the 12th. Plus they hounded Zhang for it?
  8. 2021-01-19 01:26 Edward C. Holmes open
    I think he is bullshitting.
  9. 2021-01-19 01:27 Andrew Rambaut open
    I posted a follow up to your post at 12pm on the 12th saying some genomes were up on GISAID.

Full conversation →