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Slack / Private Message Drop, p.368 [SLACK_000582] · slack_pm:msg:03832

Date: 2021-01-07 19:14
Type: chat message · slack
recipient: Kristian G. Andersen, Robert F. Garry, Andrew Rambaut
speaker: Edward C. Holmes
Topics: Natural origin / zoonotic spillover

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Also, didn't they detect the virus on lots of environmental samples from surfaces in the market? I don't think you'd expect this from an imported packet of frozen pangolin.

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I don't think you'd expect this from an imported packet of frozen pangolin.	own voice, substantive	speaker_own	asserts

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I don't think you'd expect this from an imported packet of frozen pangolin.

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2021-01-07 18:23 Robert F. Garry open

Some good points - other points [?] https://science.sciencemag.org/content/371/6525/120
2021-01-07 18:27 Robert F. Garry open

If the 99% SC2 is a fish virus that came in to Wuhan on packaged seafood, I'll be rather shocked. But, what do Iknow? Eddie is the undisputed master of fish viruses.
2021-01-07 18:32 Kristian G. Andersen open

Yeah, I found the article a little strange and unclear
2021-01-07 19:01 Edward C. Holmes open

Oh dear. Mammalian coronaviruses are respiratory transmitted. That must be the greatest risk. The fish coronaviruses are phylogenetically distinct. So, this effectively suggests that there was some frozen mammal meatat the market. Surely BS. I think that Shi is being made to tow the party line here. Useless.
2021-01-07 19:14 Edward C. Holmes

Also, didn't they detect the virus on lots of environmental samples from surfaces in the market? I don't think you'd expect this from an imported packet of frozen pangolin.
2021-01-07 19:39 Robert F. Garry open

Agree! Lot's of the rest of the diagram make my head hurt as well...

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