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Date
2020-10-30 17:09 (hour precision)
Type
chat message · slack
recipient
Kristian G. Andersen, Robert F. Garry, Andrew Rambaut
speaker
Edward C. Holmes
Topics
Intelligence community assessments

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Yes, a shit storm if true. But that's just Let's see if I can anything 'official'.

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  1. 2020-10-30 17:09 Edward C. Holmes open
    Tommy has 6 SARS-CoV-2 sero-positive pangolins that are currently being metagenomically sequenced. The other news - which is obviously strictly confidential - is that someone in China (Tong?) has apparently obtained a MERS-like virus from a pangolin.
  2. 2020-10-30 17:09 Kristian G. Andersen open
    Very interesting, makes sense. Based on this, the most likely explanation is that they probably had the very earliest patients sequenced around Dec 10th and then somebody slammed the brakes. The samples we have that are dated12/26 are likely earlier then - and actually supported by the sequences themselves (one of these appear basal). The root is funky too - @Andrew Rambaut, I wonder if uncertainty in the dates around the very earliest samples could help explain that? Probably... (although, last I checked, the root is still funky if you remove all the dates).
  3. 2020-10-30 17:09 Kristian G. Andersen open
    In any case - this is going to course another shit storm for the Chinese they're going to have a very hard time cleaning up - let's hope it happens after the election....
  4. 2020-10-30 17:09 Kristian G. Andersen open
    The most basal sample being WH4 - this one: https:/Avww.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/biosample/SAMEA6507893. The GPS coordinates on that points to a nursing home right next to the Line 2 main station (patient being a 39 old man). SLACK_000460 Very interesting - it appears that there might have been some early cases the world didn't know about... (or rather, cases they _did_ know about, but they occurred earlier)
  5. 2020-10-30 17:09 Edward C. Holmes
    Yes, a shit storm if true. But that's just Let's see if I can anything 'official'.
  6. 2020-10-30 17:09 Edward C. Holmes open
    I really want to see that pango data!
  7. 2020-10-30 17:09 Kristian G. Andersen open
    Yup - and I'm sure you will before the rest of us! Pangolying idiot!
  8. 2020-10-30 17:09 Edward C. Holmes open
    Those t-shirts will be priceless.
  9. 2020-10-30 17:09 Kristian G. Andersen open
    I'll need to get a bunch for VGE next year!

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