A single line often inverts meaning once you see what it
answers, so neighbouring messages are always shown.
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Not completely...
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@Andrew Rambaut I think you could to invite Shi. Coming from you the invite might be accepted: it will deemed tobe a friendly audience.
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Ha, I knew you'd say that!
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No way the virus would have gained it in Veros, but there's a non-zero chance that it could have gained it upon passage on human primary cells - e.g., human lung cells. The concern here is that we know that type of work was going on at WIV (the EgoHealth stuff), so we certainly can't dismiss it based on this. Hence Bob needs to do the experiment :wink:
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2020-10-02 15:08
Edward C. Holmes
Agreed. I only meant the Vero cell thing. Somebody must have proposed this.
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In other words - had they repeated e.g., the experiment previously done with bovine coronavirus, no questions SARS-CoV-2 with the FCS would have been selected very rapidly.
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By the way, I only gave Wade some generic off-the-record comments. He was suggesting that the observation that all the human viruses are monophyletic was evidence for a lab escape....he's definitely been drinking the Kool-aid.
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Doesn't surprise me about Wade - really disappointing. But reading his questions I was like "well, I'd have to start with explaining evolution to him first - I ain't got time for that shit".
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He probably has a hotline to Alina. I'm for the cryptic circulation in humans theory as well, not least because ofgetting the first cluster of cases most be tiny.