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Slack / Private Message Drop, p.101 [SLACK_000315] · slack_pm:msg:01020

Date: 2020-07-15 16:26
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recipient: Robert F. Garry, Edward C. Holmes, Andrew Rambaut
speaker: Kristian G. Andersen

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... she should be proud of this particular Tweet though... (Bob, I'm :eyes: at you...) [shared file(s): Screen Shot2020-07-15 at 4.24.43 PM.png]

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2020-07-15 15:42 Andrew Rambaut open

Also the pangolin RBD is only similar in amino acids - has loads of synonymous differences.
2020-07-15 15:43 Edward C. Holmes open

Totally. She's just not thought that through.
2020-07-15 16:17 Kristian G. Andersen open

I kinda liked her paper and I thought she was doing some good stuff - but now she really _has_ lost the plot. Too bad- I appreciate some of her earlier stuff.
2020-07-15 16:23 Edward C. Holmes open

Her paper makes a number of mistakes. Tommy constructed two Guangdong pangolin CoVs: one that utilised the earlier sequence and one that didn't. This is all clearly stated. Plus, no one ever claimed these samples were taken from separate animal populations (although I agree it is important to point this out). Again, this just another person that it is trying to explain away facts in an increasingly outlandish manner to fit their own theory. She'll live to regret her tweets.
2020-07-15 16:26 Kristian G. Andersen

... she should be proud of this particular Tweet though... (Bob, I'm :eyes: at you...) [shared file(s): Screen Shot2020-07-15 at 4.24.43 PM.png]
2020-07-15 16:44 Edward C. Holmes open

Another possibility is that a lot of the people push lab escape know shit about virus evolution and emergence.
2020-07-15 16:44 Kristian G. Andersen open

There is that...
2020-07-15 16:44 Kristian G. Andersen open

I'm currently reading this: https://www.independentsciencenews.org/commentaries/a-proposed-origin-for-sars-cov-2-and-the-covid-19-pandemic/
2020-07-15 16:49 Edward C. Holmes open

Such utter shite. I didn't realise until the other day that the 1977 H1N1 outbreak was *not* a lab escape but a shonkyvaccine trial. Very interesting.

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