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Slack / Private Message Drop, p.95 [SLACK_000309] · slack_pm:msg:00970

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Date
2020-07-05 07:21
Type
chat message · slack
recipient
Kristian G. Andersen, Robert F. Garry, Edward C. Holmes
speaker
Andrew Rambaut

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I blocked Ebright on Twitter so I haven't been following what he has been saying but suggesting that RaTG13 is the actual source material for lab production of SARS-CoV-2 is really dumb.

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  1. 2020-07-05 06:47 Robert F. Garry open
    Wow - important read for sure - obviously a LOT of BS, but new and important information nonetheless. The penultimate paragraph sums up the BS. "Ebright alleges, however, that the type of work required to create Covid-19 from RaTG13 was "identical" to work the laboratory had done in the past. "The very same techniques, the very same experimental strategies using RaTG13 as the starting point, would yield a virus essentially identical to Sars-Cov-2." Seems extremely unlikely that RatG13 sickened 6 and killed 3 copper miners. Passing RaTG13 in human cells would not have generated the pangoCoV RBD. Last paragraph also interesting. There actually really are some "dots" - sick/dead miners connected to RaTG13. Coincidence? Probably a lot of unsampled CoVs in that mine. My guess one that one that didn't get sampled was the killer [50% CFR so makes SARS1 and 2 look tame]. Or maybe an unsampled paramyxovirus - respiratory version. "The Sunday Times put a series of questions to the WIV. They included why it had failed for months toacknowledge the closest match to the Covid-19 virus was found in a mine where people had died from acoronavirus-like illness. The questions were met with silence." Daszak clearly knew the whole story too - thou asEddie indicates it's in plain sight - the whole series of dots are out there in print. Furthermore, WIV hasn't exactly been hiding RaTG13, but they may be itching to get back there as well. Gao too...
  2. 2020-07-05 06:59 Robert F. Garry open
    The EID article was published June 2014 - lot's of Ebola happening then...
  3. 2020-07-05 07:21 Andrew Rambaut
    I blocked Ebright on Twitter so I haven't been following what he has been saying but suggesting that RaTG13 is the actual source material for lab production of SARS-CoV-2 is really dumb.
  4. 2020-07-05 07:54 Robert F. Garry open
    Could be the straw that pushes us to Proximal Origin 2 perhaps...

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