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Slack / Private Message Drop, p.53 [SLACK_000267] · slack_pm:msg:00527

Date: 2020-06-04 10:10
Type: chat message · slack
recipient: Kristian G. Andersen, Edward C. Holmes, Andrew Rambaut
speaker: Robert F. Garry
Topics: Intelligence community assessments Vaccines

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Oh my---"The logic of Occam's Razor leads us to the most elegant and robust explanation, which is that of retro-engineering of RaTG13 after the outbreak, ie during January-February 2020." *Ah ha - RatG13 was retro-engineered to cover of the cloning by the Red Army - that's brilliant!* "Like Pradhan _et al_, we note an uncanny similarity between unique inserts (circumscribed in red framed boxes above) in the 2019-nCoV spike protein to HIV-1, the gp120 part of gp160 [3]." *CITING a withdrawn article may not be such a great idea.* "This implies that by employing insights gained after 2015, as just summarised, a further optimization of the 2015 chimeric virus for additional binding to bitter/sweet specific upper airway epithelia receptors is indicated. That would help toexplain the otherwise puzzling extreme infectivity of Covid-19 and hence also help to explain the social epidemiologyof its spread." *Love, art thou sweet? then bitter death must be: Love, thou art bitter; sweet is death to me. O Love, ifdeath be sweeter, let me die. Tennyson And, so it ends:* "We do not ever want to read such sentences about any Covid-19 candidate vaccine."

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That would help toexplain the otherwise puzzling extreme infectivity of Covid-19 and hence also help to explain the social epidemiologyof its spread." *Love, art thou sweet? then bitter death must be: Love, thou art bitter; sweet is death to me.

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2020-06-04 10:10 Robert F. Garry

Oh my---"The logic of Occam's Razor leads us to the most elegant and robust explanation, which is that of retro-engineering of RaTG13 after the outbreak, ie during January-February 2020." *Ah ha - RatG13 was retro-engineered to cover of the cloning by the Red Army - that's brilliant!* "Like Pradhan _et al_, we note an uncanny similarity between unique inserts (circumscribed in red framed boxes above) in the 2019-nCoV spike protein to HIV-1, the gp120 part of gp160 [3]." *CITING a withdrawn article may not be such a great idea.* "This implies that by employing insights gained after 2015, as just summarised, a further optimization of the 2015 chimeric virus for additional binding to bitter/sweet specific upper airway epithelia receptors is indicated. That would help toexplain the otherwise puzzling extreme infectivity of Covid-19 and hence also help to explain the social epidemiologyof its spread." *Love, art thou sweet? then bitter death must be: Love, thou art bitter; sweet is death to me. O Love, ifdeath be sweeter, let me die. Tennyson And, so it ends:* "We do not ever want to read such sentences about any Covid-19 candidate vaccine."
2020-06-04 10:12 Andrew Rambaut open

They did a pretty shit job at retroengineering a supposed progenitor virus but I guess they were rushed.

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