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Slack / Private Message Drop, p.37 [SLACK_000251] · slack_pm:msg:00368

Date: 2020-05-24 16:07
Type: chat message · slack
recipient: Kristian G. Andersen, Edward C. Holmes, Andrew Rambaut
speaker: Robert F. Garry
Topics: China relations and data access

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"CGTN is a propaganda organ for the Chinese government" Lot of that going around these days - I wonder if the 9 foot green spacewomen would be able to discern the difference with Fox Spews or any other Murdoch related garbage.

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"CGTN is a propaganda organ for the Chinese government" Lot of that going around these days - I wonder if the 9 foot green spacewomen would be able to discern the difference with Fox Spews or any other Murdoch related garbage.	quoted / not their view	quoted_external inside quotation marks	questions

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2020-05-24 15:37 Kristian G. Andersen open

Yes to the former, but not the latter - no, I don't think they would have published their sequences before also havinggrown it (however, somebody should have known about such a sequence if it existed and I'm pretty sure something would have been leaked by now)
2020-05-24 15:47 Edward C. Holmes open

One that latter point, I am struck by the complete lack of intelligence on this: surely, if they were growing a virus inthe lab, incident or not, there would be standard chatter about it on email, text, weichat, whatever, but there's nothing. There's a mountain of chatter about the pneumonia cases in Wuhan back in December before the disease was officially reported, but there is nothing about the lab.
2020-05-24 16:01 Robert F. Garry open

The virology is old-school - still grinding tissue and culturing I guess. Yeah - put that sample in a minus 80for 6 or 7years and growing something out would be hit or miss at best. Which organ are you going to grind up? SARS viruses not so viremic (resisting temptation to evoke the idiot) so blood not a good bet. I remain curious about the99% virus which I guess either never existed or was not - well - quite 99%. They clearly did culture something out ofwhere-ever they got that one if the EMs are vaguely reflective of the quasi-reality.
2020-05-24 16:03 Robert F. Garry open

Different group I realize did the "99% virus" but they did culture something it appears.
2020-05-24 16:07 Robert F. Garry

"CGTN is a propaganda organ for the Chinese government" Lot of that going around these days - I wonder if the 9 foot green spacewomen would be able to discern the difference with Fox Spews or any other Murdoch related garbage.

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