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Slack / Private Message Drop, p.27 [SLACK_000241] · slack_pm:msg:00268

Date: 2020-05-14 09:23
Type: chat message · slack
recipient: Robert F. Garry, Edward C. Holmes, Andrew Rambaut
speaker: Kristian G. Andersen
Topics: Intelligence community assessments

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You should see if you can get a sample to test in your lab - "We tested it with our most sensitive assays three times and didn't find COVID-19. We did, however, get a clear signal for bullshit".I should say though - SARS-CoV-2 RNA _does not_ always remain in nasal secretions - especially in severe cases.We have multiple examples of patients hospitalized with (confirmed) COVID where the tests are repeatedly negative- so I'm not 100% sure he's actually faking it, but knowing it's Fair, well...

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We did, however, get a clear signal for bullshit".I should say though - SARS-CoV-2 RNA _does not_ always remain in nasal secretions - especially in severe cases.We have multiple examples of patients hospitalized with (confirmed) COVID where the tests are repeatedly negative- so I'm not 100% sure he's actually faking it, but knowing it's Fair, well...	quoted / not their view	quoted_external inside quotation marks	asserts

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We did, however, get a clear signal for bullshit".I should say though - SARS-CoV-2 RNA _does not_ always remain in nasal secretions - especially in severe cases.We have multiple examples of patients hospitalized with (confirmed) COVID where the tests are repeatedly negative- so I'm not 100% sure he's actually faking it, but knowing it's Fair, well...

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2020-05-14 07:55 Kristian G. Andersen open

..... and you read the article in it mentions four negative tests for COVID and bacterial pneumonia... I'm not suggesting he's faking having COVID. Not at all.
2020-05-14 08:16 Andrew Rambaut open

He is jealous of Peter Piot.
2020-05-14 08:18 Kristian G. Andersen open

That guy got it for real, for real - nice enough essay he had in Science about it.
2020-05-14 09:02 Robert F. Garry open

Fair is definitely faking it. NCoV-19 RNA stays in the nasal secretions for literally weeks. He did not have any other tests than the Abbott test in the Emergency Department. So, is it 4 or 5 tests he has had? He told Hoda Kotb this morning that he had the Abbott test (twice), the two tests mentioned by POTUS and the BioFire. Sorry Tulane does not have the BioFire test.
2020-05-14 09:23 Kristian G. Andersen

You should see if you can get a sample to test in your lab - "We tested it with our most sensitive assays three times and didn't find COVID-19. We did, however, get a clear signal for bullshit".I should say though - SARS-CoV-2 RNA _does not_ always remain in nasal secretions - especially in severe cases.We have multiple examples of patients hospitalized with (confirmed) COVID where the tests are repeatedly negative- so I'm not 100% sure he's actually faking it, but knowing it's Fair, well...
2020-05-14 09:28 Andrew Rambaut open

If he goes on a ventilator then he is not faking it.
2020-05-14 09:30 Andrew Rambaut open

"OK Dr Fair, we are going to put you on this ventilator", "Actually doctor I am feeling a lot better now"
2020-05-14 09:42 Robert F. Garry open

No test is perfect. Curious though as to what's going on with those negative hospitalized patients. Can't say we've seen this here. ]

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