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Slack / Private Message Drop, p.16 · slack_pm:msg:00167

Date: 2020-05-06 20:23 (hour precision)
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recipient: Kristian G. Andersen, Edward C. Holmes, Andrew Rambaut
speaker: Robert F. Garry

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"There is a lot of shit about." We've all seen it, but this is unwelcome and taking it to another level. Sorry Eddie -don't need this. If you are committed to good science and do it you'll piss off a vocal minority. COVID-19 has stirredup a lot of turds (Hooper, Mikovits, Fair) that are floating to the topof the cesspool. "it's so dumb I wouldn't even respond" yes getting your University to respond is a good start. -- an ex-"student" of mine who if very good at media manipulation, once had the WashPost ready to write adefamatory "expose" on our Ebola sequencing paper in Science (if it had existed at the time - think high Altmetric). Harvard's approach was a well-consider point bypoint rebuttal - I admittedly was more "colourful." WasPost never ran the story. Lesson learned - need to do both.

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2020-05-06 20:23 Kristian G. Andersen open

Even better. They have nothing.
2020-05-06 20:23 Kristian G. Andersen open

.. the kind of shit we have to deal with though... Geez. :face_with_rolling_eyes:
2020-05-06 20:23 Edward C. Holmes open

I know...for trying to do the right thing. Fuck me.
2020-05-06 20:23 Andrew Rambaut open

And you have a married blond woman in your house during lockdown.
2020-05-06 20:23 Robert F. Garry

"There is a lot of shit about." We've all seen it, but this is unwelcome and taking it to another level. Sorry Eddie -don't need this. If you are committed to good science and do it you'll piss off a vocal minority. COVID-19 has stirredup a lot of turds (Hooper, Mikovits, Fair) that are floating to the topof the cesspool. "it's so dumb I wouldn't even respond" yes getting your University to respond is a good start. -- an ex-"student" of mine who if very good at media manipulation, once had the WashPost ready to write adefamatory "expose" on our Ebola sequencing paper in Science (if it had existed at the time - think high Altmetric). Harvard's approach was a well-consider point bypoint rebuttal - I admittedly was more "colourful." WasPost never ran the story. Lesson learned - need to do both.
2020-05-06 20:23 Andrew Rambaut open

Bob is right though. You can basically get your University to just write those facts back at them they are all true and they are all irrelevant. The point is that there is already transparency on grants.
2020-05-06 20:23 Edward C. Holmes open

There's been a lot of pushback against the Daily Telegraph and their story is on 'hold'. The Australian Academy ofScience are furious and the Prime Minister's office are now involved. A pathetic version of the story was published inthe Melbourne version of the paper this morning. I am tagged on that the end and I suspect they are trying to imply that I work with Dr. Shi and the Wuhan Institute of Virology (which I don't). Total nothing story. [shared file(s): 1272319357.pdf]
2020-05-06 20:23 Kristian G. Andersen open

Total nothingburger on your part - and a great statement from your university. What's that about the database though? I have not heard of that previously.
2020-05-06 20:23 Edward C. Holmes open

I've no idea. The Telegraph claim that the WIV deleted files etc. No idea how they got this info. The story is here(scroll down a bit) but it's paywalled I'm not paying a cent to this Murdoch-based bunch of shits:https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/

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