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Baric Transcribed Interview (Redacted), p.112 · baric_ti:utt:00962

Date: 2026-04-10 09:00 (day precision)
Type: transcript segment · interview
recipient: Ralph S. Baric, Harry Kazenoff, David T. Lambeth III, William Henderson, Clark Ervin, Jake Greenberg
speaker: Christina Salazar
Topics: Gain-of-function research

The only gain-of-function that you have ever done or been involved in is the one that you received an exemption for.

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The only gain-of-function that you have ever done or been involved in is the one that you received an exemption for.	own voice, substantive	speaker_own	asserts

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The only gain-of-function that you have ever done or been involved in is the one that you received an exemption for.

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2026-04-10 09:00 Christina Salazar open

Okay. So have you ever done gain-of22 function research under any other federally funded grant?
2026-04-10 09:00 Ralph S. Baric open

No.
2026-04-10 09:00 Christina Salazar open

Have you ever, you know, created a virus or provided sequences or done something under a contract DC.Scheduling@LexitasLegal.com where you were not the one that was actually conducting gain-of-function research, but the overarching experimental research was --
2026-04-10 09:00 Ralph S. Baric open

Can you put that into a direct example, rather than this global thing that requires me to remember everything that I did in the last 40 years of my life?
2026-04-10 09:00 Christina Salazar

The only gain-of-function that you have ever done or been involved in is the one that you received an exemption for.
2026-04-10 09:00 Ralph S. Baric open

Every gain-of-function? Once the pause occurred, anything that we did that had potential for gain12 of-function was reviewed by the NIH, yes.
2026-04-10 09:00 Christina Salazar open

I mean, so you only did that kind of work for NIH.
2026-04-10 09:00 Ralph S. Baric open

Yes.
2026-04-10 09:00 Christina Salazar open

The pause only applied to NIH.