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Baric Transcribed Interview (Redacted), p.112 · baric_ti:utt:00961

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Date
2026-04-10 09:00 (day precision)
Type
transcript segment · interview
recipient
Christina Salazar, Harry Kazenoff, David T. Lambeth III, William Henderson, Clark Ervin, Jake Greenberg
speaker
Ralph S. Baric
Can you put that into a direct example, rather than this global thing that requires me to remember everything that I did in the last 40 years of my life?

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  1. 2026-04-10 09:00 Ralph S. Baric open
    Besides the NIH? I mean, technically, the work that we did with MERS, where we were given a waiver, as far as I know it was never really reviewed for GOF. It decided that it was in the national interest to develop a mouse model so that countermeasures could be developed against MERS. The virus has a 35 percent mortality rate. It could transmit to people, and it could transmit through asymptomatic spread. So there's a threat potential there. I think NIH made the right call in that case, that you develop the appropriate reagents so that you can move countermeasures forward to protect the public.
  2. 2026-04-10 09:00 Christina Salazar open
    Okay. So have you ever done gain-of22 function research under any other federally funded grant?
  3. 2026-04-10 09:00 Ralph S. Baric open
    No.
  4. 2026-04-10 09:00 Christina Salazar open
    Have you ever, you know, created a virus or provided sequences or done something under a contract DC.Scheduling@LexitasLegal.com where you were not the one that was actually conducting gain-of-function research, but the overarching experimental research was --
  5. 2026-04-10 09:00 Ralph S. Baric
    Can you put that into a direct example, rather than this global thing that requires me to remember everything that I did in the last 40 years of my life?
  6. 2026-04-10 09:00 Christina Salazar open
    The only gain-of-function that you have ever done or been involved in is the one that you received an exemption for.
  7. 2026-04-10 09:00 Ralph S. Baric open
    Every gain-of-function? Once the pause occurred, anything that we did that had potential for gain12 of-function was reviewed by the NIH, yes.
  8. 2026-04-10 09:00 Christina Salazar open
    I mean, so you only did that kind of work for NIH.
  9. 2026-04-10 09:00 Ralph S. Baric open
    Yes.

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