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1. 2026-04-10 09:00 Christina Salazar open
   But that was part --
2. 2026-04-10 09:00 Ralph S. Baric open
   Yeah, that was part of it, but the Michigan group also had a vaccine vector where we would put in viral antigens to try to immunize the bats.
3. 2026-04-10 09:00 Christina Salazar open
   And I think that there was, in the actual proposal, there was discussion about going to caves in Michigan. So to me that sounds like we might have been doing this in the United States as opposed to China.
4. 2026-04-10 09:00 Ralph S. Baric open
   If they were doing it in Michigan, what they were doing were pilot experiments to see if the approach, especially the double-stranded RNA approach, reduced virus titers for North American strains. And there's no sarbecoviruses in North America at this time.
5. 2026-04-10 09:00 Christina Salazar
   So what they would be spraying in the caves would not be the gain-of-function?
6. 2026-04-10 09:00 Ralph S. Baric open
   No.
7. 2026-04-10 09:00 Christina Salazar open
   Okay. Why is that?
8. 2026-04-10 09:00 Ralph S. Baric open
   So gain-of-function, you're talking about a live virus.
9. 2026-04-10 09:00 Christina Salazar open
   What would they be spraying?

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