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It means one approach was to take doublestranded RNA and spray it in the bat cave and then induce innate immune responses in bats, so that those innate immune responses would control virus infection and virus titers would go down. So the idea would be the soldiers, before they went into a cave, they may spray the cave to lower the titer of the virus in the cave so it's less likely that they'd be infected. DARPA has kind of wild experiments.
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But where was that portion? So I think --
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Well, that would've had to have been done in China because it was based on the strains that would be found in the cave complex that they were doing their discovery work.
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I recall that there was some Michigan --
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2026-04-10 09:00
Ralph S. Baric
Yeah. There was a Michigan group that had these kind of sprayers -- DC.Scheduling@LexitasLegal.com
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But that was part --
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Yeah, that was part of it, but the Michigan group also had a vaccine vector where we would put in viral antigens to try to immunize the bats.
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And I think that there was, in the actual proposal, there was discussion about going to caves in Michigan. So to me that sounds like we might have been doing this in the United States as opposed to China.
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If they were doing it in Michigan, what they were doing were pilot experiments to see if the approach, especially the double-stranded RNA approach, reduced virus titers for North American strains. And there's no sarbecoviruses in North America at this time.