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Baric Transcribed Interview (Redacted), p.96 · baric_ti:utt:00844

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Date
2026-04-10 09:00 (day precision)
Type
transcript segment · interview
recipient
Ralph S. Baric, Harry Kazenoff, David T. Lambeth III, William Henderson, Clark Ervin, Jake Greenberg
speaker
Christina Salazar
I recall that there was some Michigan --

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  1. 2026-04-10 09:00 Christina Salazar open
    So when you say in a bat cave, what does that mean?
  2. 2026-04-10 09:00 Ralph S. Baric open
    It means one approach was to take doublestranded RNA and spray it in the bat cave and then induce innate immune responses in bats, so that those innate immune responses would control virus infection and virus titers would go down. So the idea would be the soldiers, before they went into a cave, they may spray the cave to lower the titer of the virus in the cave so it's less likely that they'd be infected. DARPA has kind of wild experiments.
  3. 2026-04-10 09:00 Christina Salazar open
    But where was that portion? So I think --
  4. 2026-04-10 09:00 Ralph S. Baric open
    Well, that would've had to have been done in China because it was based on the strains that would be found in the cave complex that they were doing their discovery work.
  5. 2026-04-10 09:00 Christina Salazar
    I recall that there was some Michigan --
  6. 2026-04-10 09:00 Ralph S. Baric open
    Yeah. There was a Michigan group that had these kind of sprayers -- DC.Scheduling@LexitasLegal.com
  7. 2026-04-10 09:00 Christina Salazar open
    But that was part --
  8. 2026-04-10 09:00 Ralph S. Baric open
    Yeah, that was part of it, but the Michigan group also had a vaccine vector where we would put in viral antigens to try to immunize the bats.
  9. 2026-04-10 09:00 Christina Salazar open
    And I think that there was, in the actual proposal, there was discussion about going to caves in Michigan. So to me that sounds like we might have been doing this in the United States as opposed to China.

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