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Baric Transcribed Interview (Redacted), p.90 · baric_ti:utt:00811

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Date
2026-04-10 09:00 (day precision)
Type
transcript segment · interview
recipient
Christina Salazar, Harry Kazenoff, David T. Lambeth III, William Henderson, Clark Ervin, Jake Greenberg
speaker
Ralph S. Baric
No.

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  1. 2026-04-10 09:00 Ralph S. Baric open
    Oh, I don't know if we discussed the DARPA proposal. Is that, by that time it had been rejected, or was it under review?
  2. 2026-04-10 09:00 Christina Salazar open
    It had been rejected.
  3. 2026-04-10 09:00 Ralph S. Baric open
    Yeah. I'm sure that it came up in terms of it being rejected, but, you know, it happens on grants.
  4. 2026-04-10 09:00 Christina Salazar open
    So the DARPA DEFUSE proposal has obviously been the subject of a lot of discussion. I know that for a lot of people it is hard to understand how it did not come up earlier in the conversations. So I'm going to ask, when did you raise, for the first time, with the United States government officials that you were interacting with -- I mean, you interacted with Erik Stemmy on the 7th, Fauci on February 11, 2020. Did DARPA DEFUSE come up in that meeting?
  5. 2026-04-10 09:00 Ralph S. Baric
    No.
  6. 2026-04-10 09:00 Christina Salazar open
    Is there a reason why?
  7. 2026-04-10 09:00 Ralph S. Baric open
    I hadn't remembered the grant. That DC.Scheduling@LexitasLegal.com shocks you, doesn't it?
  8. 2026-04-10 09:00 Christina Salazar open
    It does shock me.
  9. 2026-04-10 09:00 Ralph S. Baric open
    Do you know how many grants I write?

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