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Baric Transcribed Interview (Redacted), pp.44-45 · baric_ti:utt:00319

Page text: p.44, p.45 · original PDF

Date
2026-04-10 09:00 (day precision)
Type
transcript segment · interview
recipient
Ralph S. Baric, Harry Kazenoff, David T. Lambeth III, William Henderson, Clark Ervin, Jake Greenberg
speaker
Christina Salazar
And I think, you know, I think part of the problem is that a lot of these things are funded with taxpayer dollars, so people get upset when they find out that that's, right, some of the development of the model is DC.Scheduling@LexitasLegal.com funded with taxpayer funds, U.S. taxpayer funds?

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  1. 2026-04-10 09:00 Christina Salazar open
    Yeah. How do you confirm that, you know, mice were --
  2. 2026-04-10 09:00 Ralph S. Baric open
    Yeah, how do you confirm that?
  3. 2026-04-10 09:00 Christina Salazar open
    Okay. I mean, so there was generally a sense of trust prior?
  4. 2026-04-10 09:00 Ralph S. Baric open
    Well, the whole purpose, again, of open science is to ensure integrity of the process. And I think that was not a validation of the integrity. That was inappropriate behavior by Chinese scientists.
  5. 2026-04-10 09:00 Christina Salazar
    And I think, you know, I think part of the problem is that a lot of these things are funded with taxpayer dollars, so people get upset when they find out that that's, right, some of the development of the model is DC.Scheduling@LexitasLegal.com funded with taxpayer funds, U.S. taxpayer funds?
  6. 2026-04-10 09:00 Ralph S. Baric open
    Well, that would have been a decade earlier, but yeah, sure.
  7. 2026-04-10 09:00 Christina Salazar open
    Yes. And then --
  8. 2026-04-10 09:00 Ralph S. Baric open
    Those mice were also shared with other U.S. investigators, as well, so it's not like this is -- it's not a fair assessment to say that because you gave it to the Chinese you didn't appropriately use U.S. taxpayer funds. In reality, the regulatory framework of the United States government is that I'm required to share.
  9. 2026-04-10 09:00 Christina Salazar open
    With the Chinese?

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