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Baric Transcribed Interview (Redacted), p.36 · baric_ti:utt:00222

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Date
2026-04-10 09:00 (day precision)
Type
transcript segment · interview
recipient
Ralph S. Baric, Harry Kazenoff, David T. Lambeth III, William Henderson, Clark Ervin, Jake Greenberg
speaker
Christina Salazar
Topics
Wuhan Institute of Virology collaboration
Chimeras. I figured it out. "Clearly he is in other kinds of meetings than we are invited to. I joked about his link to WIV but he wasn't very amused. He said that Shi's paper was not approved by the Chinese government and that she may be arrested for it. That's not a good look for anyone. So we just go ahead and keep our head down and get this virus working." So does this reflect what the conversation was?

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  1. 2026-04-10 09:00 Christina Salazar open
    Okay. Do you know who Matt Freeman is?
  2. 2026-04-10 09:00 Ralph S. Baric open
    Yeah, I trained him, yeah.
  3. 2026-04-10 09:00 Christina Salazar open
    I'm going to read you -- again, this has been FOIA'd -- he sent, in a Slack message, and I'm just going to read it out loud. "I talked to Ralph for a long time last night. He sounds beat. His ACE2 mice are breeding up but not ready for anyone to have. He said he sat in Fauci's office talking about the outbreak," and I'm going to ask you, is it chimeras?
  4. 2026-04-10 09:00 Ralph S. Baric open
    Chimeras. DC.Scheduling@LexitasLegal.com
  5. 2026-04-10 09:00 Christina Salazar
    Chimeras. I figured it out. "Clearly he is in other kinds of meetings than we are invited to. I joked about his link to WIV but he wasn't very amused. He said that Shi's paper was not approved by the Chinese government and that she may be arrested for it. That's not a good look for anyone. So we just go ahead and keep our head down and get this virus working." So does this reflect what the conversation was?
  6. 2026-04-10 09:00 Ralph S. Baric open
    It's a Slack message that people write. It's not to me. Yeah. Certainly the first part, for sure. Ask specific parts of the question.
  7. 2026-04-10 09:00 Christina Salazar open
    So why would --
  8. 2026-04-10 09:00 Ralph S. Baric open
    Sorry. I can't remember.
  9. 2026-04-10 09:00 Christina Salazar open
    -- Dr. Shi be arrested, because she didn't have the paper approved by the Chinese government?

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