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Baric Transcribed Interview (Redacted), p.35 · baric_ti:utt:00220

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Date
2026-04-10 09:00 (day precision)
Type
transcript segment · interview
recipient
Ralph S. Baric, Harry Kazenoff, David T. Lambeth III, William Henderson, Clark Ervin, Jake Greenberg
speaker
Christina Salazar
Topics
FOIA, records and transparency
I'm going to read you -- again, this has been FOIA'd -- he sent, in a Slack message, and I'm just going to read it out loud. "I talked to Ralph for a long time last night. He sounds beat. His ACE2 mice are breeding up but not ready for anyone to have. He said he sat in Fauci's office talking about the outbreak," and I'm going to ask you, is it chimeras?

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I'm going to read you -- again, this has been FOIA'd -- he sent, in a Slack message, and I'm just going to read it out loud. own voice, substantive speaker_own asserts

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  1. 2026-04-10 09:00 Christina Salazar open
    And so was Dr. Fauci there when -- I mean, did he ask you anything specific? Was he part of the conversation at that time? Or did he just say hello and leave?
  2. 2026-04-10 09:00 Ralph S. Baric open
    No, no. I think he participated in terms of introducing, asking the question about the new virus and my thoughts about it, I guess, in terms of what I knew at the time, which wasn't a whole lot. But I knew some things.
  3. 2026-04-10 09:00 Christina Salazar open
    Okay. Do you know who Matt Freeman is?
  4. 2026-04-10 09:00 Ralph S. Baric open
    Yeah, I trained him, yeah.
  5. 2026-04-10 09:00 Christina Salazar
    I'm going to read you -- again, this has been FOIA'd -- he sent, in a Slack message, and I'm just going to read it out loud. "I talked to Ralph for a long time last night. He sounds beat. His ACE2 mice are breeding up but not ready for anyone to have. He said he sat in Fauci's office talking about the outbreak," and I'm going to ask you, is it chimeras?
  6. 2026-04-10 09:00 Ralph S. Baric open
    Chimeras. DC.Scheduling@LexitasLegal.com
  7. 2026-04-10 09:00 Christina Salazar open
    Chimeras. I figured it out. "Clearly he is in other kinds of meetings than we are invited to. I joked about his link to WIV but he wasn't very amused. He said that Shi's paper was not approved by the Chinese government and that she may be arrested for it. That's not a good look for anyone. So we just go ahead and keep our head down and get this virus working." So does this reflect what the conversation was?
  8. 2026-04-10 09:00 Ralph S. Baric open
    It's a Slack message that people write. It's not to me. Yeah. Certainly the first part, for sure. Ask specific parts of the question.
  9. 2026-04-10 09:00 Christina Salazar open
    So why would --

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