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Baric Transcribed Interview (Redacted), p.30 · baric_ti:utt:00180

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Date
2026-04-10 09:00 (day precision)
Type
transcript segment · interview
recipient
Christina Salazar, Harry Kazenoff, David T. Lambeth III, William Henderson, Clark Ervin, Jake Greenberg
speaker
Ralph S. Baric
I think one group was out of the University of Utah. I can't remember the fellow's name.

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  1. 2026-04-10 09:00 Ralph S. Baric open
    So in, was it, October 2014, the Obama administration put out the pause. The pause effectively was set up two ways. One way was that if a grant was submitted that had the potential for gain-of-function research it would be reviewed before they funded it. And the second class was if you were already doing P3, or research that might fall under the category, you had the option to either pause it voluntarily or continue it. And in the case of SHC014-WIV work, we paused it voluntarily. The third category was waivers. And so the NIH approved three groups, to my knowledge, to continue to develop a MERS coronavirus mouse model for countermeasured studies.
  2. 2026-04-10 09:00 Christina Salazar open
    And you were one of them?
  3. 2026-04-10 09:00 Ralph S. Baric open
    And we were one of them.
  4. 2026-04-10 09:00 Christina Salazar open
    Do you know who the others were?
  5. 2026-04-10 09:00 Ralph S. Baric
    I think one group was out of the University of Utah. I can't remember the fellow's name.
  6. 2026-04-10 09:00 Christina Salazar open
    Were they individual exemptions, or was DC.Scheduling@LexitasLegal.com it across the board?
  7. 2026-04-10 09:00 Ralph S. Baric open
    I don't know about their exemptions. Mine was an individualized exemption. I don't know what theirs were. I didn't receive their paperwork.
  8. 2026-04-10 09:00 Christina Salazar open
    And what was the process for seeking an exemption at that time?
  9. 2026-04-10 09:00 Ralph S. Baric open
    I don't remember that, as well. I can't remember the details of that, as well. All I can tell you is that the exemption was approved right before Christmas of 2014.

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