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Baric Transcribed Interview (Redacted), p.16 · baric_ti:utt:00074

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Date
2026-04-10 09:00 (day precision)
Type
transcript segment · interview
recipient
Ralph S. Baric, Harry Kazenoff, David T. Lambeth III, William Henderson, Clark Ervin, Jake Greenberg
speaker
Christina Salazar
Topics
Vaccines
Okay. And the vaccine, the MERS vaccine, is that the CisVax [sic] vaccine that I saw in one of your grant proposals, was called CisVax?

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And the vaccine, the MERS vaccine, is that the CisVax [sic] vaccine that I saw in one of your grant proposals, was called CisVax? needs context speaker_own questions

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  1. 2026-04-10 09:00 Christina Salazar open
    No, no, no. Yours, the one that you had DC.Scheduling@LexitasLegal.com worked with.
  2. 2026-04-10 09:00 Ralph S. Baric open
    Oh, we compared it to a killed vaccine. We'd also tested alpha virus-based vaccines, Venezuelan equine encephalitis replicon particles. It was basically an RNA virus where the structural genes have been removed, so it's single hit. It can only infect one set of cells. It delivers the payload gene, in this case the coronavirus antigen. That induces an immune response that is either protective or not, depending on the model system. The other was killed vaccines. In 2003, the NIH had purchased two, or the Federal Government had purchased two $20 million killed vaccines to test against SARS coronavirus.
  3. 2026-04-10 09:00 Christina Salazar open
    What's a killed vaccine?
  4. 2026-04-10 09:00 Ralph S. Baric open
    They took the SARS coronavirus and then they inactivated it with a chemical inactivation, a UV light. So they killed the virus so that all that was left was the antigenic preparation, and that's put in the animal. So killed vaccines are pretty commonly used in humans.
  5. 2026-04-10 09:00 Christina Salazar
    Okay. And the vaccine, the MERS vaccine, is that the CisVax [sic] vaccine that I saw in one of your grant proposals, was called CisVax?
  6. 2026-04-10 09:00 Ralph S. Baric open
    CisVax?
  7. 2026-04-10 09:00 Christina Salazar open
    I think. If you don't know. DC.Scheduling@LexitasLegal.com
  8. 2026-04-10 09:00 Ralph S. Baric open
    I've read a lot of proposals. You're going to have to show me the proposal and then I can tell you.
  9. 2026-04-10 09:00 Christina Salazar open
    If not, I was just trying to tie it back to something. Okay. So I have some notes, and I think your call was around the 7th.

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