Private channel session 1598
16 messages over 35m, 2021-08-24 – 2021-08-24.
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1. Is this through a Fauci FOIA request? If so, why has it come up at all? 2. My 'Here are the facts' email is a really good one for us. I'm happy for it to be out there, although I'll them go through the pain of tying to get it. 3. Perhapswe can get The Seeker to reveal who DT is? That would be fun.
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New NIH FOIA I think.
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I wonder what Jon will do. He could release the email he got from DT
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But Fauci was not on those emails
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The first one is to Fauci from Kristian
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I am not sure they should have left any quoted email from a third party (i.e., Jon) unredacted? SLACK_001207
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Should be redacted as should all of my reply. Had nothing to do with Fauci.
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As I don't think Fauci will be able to release party emails we'll probably get another FOIA request now. They'll probably be distracted for a bit now because the WHO thing is out in Nature tomorrow. What will drive them nuts.
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Other than sending this to Jeremy and Tony, did we email around each other? I think we were all on Slack by then?
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Not sure. Because Jeremy was involved we did it through email. It didn't take us long.
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But none of the banter, speculation about who it might be, I think? Will check but I am pretty sure it is all on this channel. Update: not much in email but there is this..
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As you say, the 'Here are the facts:' reply is good should it ever get out
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And there is a thread with Jeremy and a WT person (presumably WT not covered by FOI so it would just be an FOI to us and currently we are not releasing).
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Jon's reply to us was good too: From: Jon Cohen a: Subject: Re: The authors who wrote the paper saying that SARS-CoV-2 is not human engineered first tried convincing Anthony Fauci of the opposite. Date: 29 July 2020 at 9:57:57 am AEST. To: Edward Holmes I.au> Cc: "Kristian G. ar: Jeremy Farrar i visor: Thanks Eddie and Kristian. I was not planning on writing about this, but your accounting is interesting and, for what it's worth, convincing.Whoever wrote this--and I have no idea who the person is--has some inside knowledge about something oranother.When I was covering the HIV origin debates, one question kept returning to people who pushed different theories that were possible but not probable: What, exactly, would it take to convince you?I think science is a generous process. It says, show me evidence that differs from what I think and I will change mymind. It's not religion. Some people take advantage of this generosity. They push beliefs, not theories, and when one set of questions they raise are answered, they come up with criticisms of the answers or they latch on to new questions. Truth will out. I'm glad to see the origin conversation advancing and that there's a push to gather more data. I've covered many, many outbreak origin stories now, and time again, data emerge that put speculations to rest. Bring it!All the best, Jon```