Private channel session 1081

19 messages over 52m, 2021-03-09 – 2021-03-09.

A “conversation” here is an activity session — a run of messages with under 60 minutes of silence inside it. The channel had no native conversation boundaries.

2021-03-09 19:07 Robert F. Garry open PDF p.580

"Seems better than I imagined" Indeed -Eddie - you may have saved them with your "vacation" photos!
2021-03-09 19:09 Robert F. Garry open PDF p.581

"unlikely that that level of CoV RNA would be in those grates from human sources." Yes - the level that ppl find onhospital survaces with dozens of patents in a ward is tiny...
2021-03-09 19:16 Kristian G. Andersen open PDF p.581

Yeah, really good point. Rob Knight has been doing a ton of surface sampling from hospital rooms, rooms with confirmed infections, etc. - teeny tiny amounts of RNA can be found. It's there - but not a lot. Finding a lot of virus RNA on grates would suggest active shedding - probably fecal.
2021-03-09 19:17 Robert F. Garry open PDF p.581

WashPost spinning here. i'm guessing [hoping] White house are smart enough to figure this out - maybe with a little help from Kristian... [shared file(s): Opinion I The Biden administration conf...Wuhan lab claims - The Washington Post.pdf]
2021-03-09 19:18 Kristian G. Andersen open PDF p.581

Nope - I don't believe the current administration is going to be better on this particular point. Was very disappointed talking to Biden's office - they had already bought into the lab claims.
2021-03-09 19:19 Robert F. Garry open PDF p.581

Maybe that explains Lander not doing anything with Alina. Sad.
2021-03-09 19:23 Robert F. Garry open PDF p.581

But, I think they'll be other opportunities to set the record straight - plus the fact that there are closer viruses out there in nature. Just a question of whether Alina et al. can shut down the work before they are found.
2021-03-09 19:24 Kristian G. Andersen open PDF p.581

Oh, Josh Rogin.... It's amazing you can actually write a full article but without saying anything at all - pure wordsoup.
2021-03-09 19:35 Edward C. Holmes open PDF p.581

So, the White House no nothing which means there is no security agency information on the lab escape. End of story.
2021-03-09 19:35 Kristian G. Andersen open PDF p.581

Yup - simple as that.
2021-03-09 19:36 Kristian G. Andersen open PDF p.581

One year in and not a single lead suggestion any connection to the lab - which is actually quite remarkable in the sense that they could cook _anything_ up to make it at least _appear_ to be related to lab escape. But they don't even have that.
2021-03-09 19:37 Kristian G. Andersen open PDF p.581

Also, definitely not a conspiracy theorist. Not at all. [shared file(s): Screen Shot 2021-03-09 at 7.31.45 PM.png, Screen Shot 2021-03-09 at 7.33.06 PM.png, Screen Shot 2021-03-09 at 7.33.50 PM.png, Screen Shot 2021-03-09at 7.34.21 PM.png, Screen Shot 2021-03-09 at 7.35.06 PM.png]
2021-03-09 19:41 Robert F. Garry open PDF p.582

"Nature just had a podcast with bad information." Really?
2021-03-09 19:46 Edward C. Holmes open PDF p.582

Absolutely crazy. Can't wait for that WHO report!
2021-03-09 19:51 Robert F. Garry open PDF p.582

yeah - that was the best piece of news today about your raccoon dog pics over the grate correlating the low Cts. Also in the good news category - Weifeng's paper puts several more nails in the coffin containing Alina's GD pangois fake story.
2021-03-09 19:54 Edward C. Holmes open PDF p.582

Although, of course, I'm going to look like I'm even deeper in the conspiracy....
2021-03-09 19:56 Kristian G. Andersen open PDF p.582

Getting rich off those CCP checks. There are worse things in life. :moneybag::cn:
2021-03-09 19:58 Edward C. Holmes open PDF p.582

There are indeed. Just can't wait to see that report released now.
2021-03-09 19:59 Kristian G. Andersen open PDF p.582

Yup, same. Some _actual_ expert on that mission and they're going to be thinking VERY hard about how to phrase things so it should be insightful.