Private channel session 1042
37 messages over 1h 36m, 2021-02-28 – 2021-02-28.
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Yup, noticed that bit too - nice jab.
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I look forward to the WSJ story. I also had a chat with some writing a story for Scientific American that will hopefully take a more jabs against the lab escape idea. I hope Alina's reaction to these stories will be the same as this guy trying to eat fermented herring:https://www.reddit.com/r/therewasanattempt/comments/lt5gfm/to_eat_the_fish_and_complete_the_challenge/
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Is that the Swedish stuff? I've had the Norwegian version and it was quite nice.
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I assumed it was Swedish. He did show great commitment.
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Some one brought some back to the lab once in Oxford. Can't remember who it was. Absolutely foul.
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Nick Grassly I think
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Seems likely
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6 cases of P.1 in UK, 3 in Aberdeen, 3 in SW England. One seems to have no epi information which is fun. How are they getting here? Can't be from Manaus surely. Must be widespread elsewhere.
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Aberdeen? Bonkers
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Perhaps the oil industry
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South America has a lot of people in it.
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(and NO genomic epi in most countries)
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Yup. And shows that hotel quarantine is going well.
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Shame it's not Cowdenbeath as their football team is ironically called 'the blue Brazil'
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I'm interested to see what happens when P.1 / B.1.351 hit London and battle it out with B.1.1.7 - especially as vaccine coverage is going up.
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I did check whether Aberdeen FC had any players from distant parts the last time they had an outbreak in August -the virus was very different from anything sampled at the time. Turned out to be from Kazakstan.
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Interesting. The UK hotel quarantine scheme is not long enough for a start. Needs to be at least 14 days.
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Needs to be from all places. Crazy they can require it for Spain but not USA.
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We don't have any COVID here, so it's fine.
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Mind you, your VOCs are pathetic
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What?! Not from the USA??
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Well, just wait until you see our recombinants.
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Has Korber submitted a paper yet?
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Here is the list of places from which travel is banned (i.e., you do hotel quarantine): ```Angola Argentina Bolivia Botswana Brazil Burundi Cape Verde Chile Colombia Democratic Republic of the Congo Ecuador Eswatini French Guiana Guyana Lesotho Malawi Mauritius Mozambique Namibia Panama Paraguay Peru Portugal (including Madeira and the Azores) Rwanda Seychelles South Africa Suriname Tanzania United Arab Emirates (UAE) Uruguay Venezuela Zambia Zimbabwe``` Notice any commonalities?
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Had a long conversation with her explaining why her one example 'recombinant' probably wasn't.
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@Eddie Holmes Did she listen? She never listens....
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Did she believe you?
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Of course not.
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Her group has some hokey triplet method which is totally useless as you don't have an outgroup
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Basically she found a 'californian' virus with 69/70 deletion in it and was claiming it was recombinant with a B.1.1.7.But 69/70 comes up all the time.
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I spent way too long on it.
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Wait, she specifically said 69/70 came from B.1.1.7 and hence it must be a recombinant? That's, well, dumb. Very.
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What an idiot. I look forward to reviewing that for Cell.
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That was the only homoplasy but she had a convincing looking plot of the two 'parents' and the 'recombinant' and itshowed a tract in spike that looked like B.1.1.7 compared to the other parent. But it was actually also the same asthe reference and the other parent had had some mutations. Just so dumb
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The worse thing is we started the meeting with an explanation from Bette about how you detect recombination in viruses.
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Hahahaha, must have been so painful to go through that.
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She's so awful. I really hope she gets a bit of public ridicule for this.