COVID-19 Records

Private channel session 448

6 messages over 37m, 2020-10-05 – 2020-10-05.

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  1. 2020-10-05 10:29 Robert F. Garry open PDF p.212
    Kayleigh McEnany and 2 others in the WH communications office are positive.
  2. 2020-10-05 10:35 Kristian G. Andersen open PDF p.212
    Many more to come.
  3. 2020-10-05 10:51 Robert F. Garry open PDF p.212
    Yeah it's really true that most cases are due to these "super-spreader events." Bad terminology but it's true - a case either doesn't spread or spreads to few or there are many cases all linked.
  4. 2020-10-05 10:55 Kristian G. Andersen open PDF p.212
    While there are certainly SS events, it's still not clear to me if events like these are due to a person being particularlyprone to spreading, or whether it's just the event itself (in other words - could any standard patient lead to these events, or does it take something special?).
  5. 2020-10-05 10:57 Kristian G. Andersen open PDF p.212
    @Eddie Holmes the paper you shared a while back about the ACE2 selection - very interesting and so messed up. Basically, ACE2 in bats and SARS-like CoVs are in a constant evolutionary race swapping AAs frequently. When you combine it with this part (from the paper): "we found that bat SARSr-CoV RBDs showed a higher binding affinityto human ACE2 than to R. sinicus ACE2s but did not display obvious differences among the R. sinicus ACE2s" -well, you'll always have a disaster in the waiting....
  6. 2020-10-05 11:06 Robert F. Garry open PDF p.212
    "could any standard patient lead to these events, or does it take something special" It's probably both - put your standard patient in the right situation [like the WH gala or a bar]- they will SS. I also think there are likely special patients that exist that spread especially well and that very high virus load is a major discriminator btwn the standard and special patients.