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[2021-04-27 19:19:53] [Robert Garry] "Could N be involved in transmissibility?" yes - I'll take a look. [2021-04-27 19:40:52] [Kristian Andersen] 20%... I think we see an example of what can happen if you give B.1.1.7 (and possibly 617) free reign. Pure devastation - the reports are terrifying. [2021-04-27 20:30:14] [Kristian Andersen] So much bs in this one. Phase I and II trials for vaccines against novel viruses we don't know anything about? Other than, of course, they're the most likely ones to case future pandemics. Suuuuuure. _"Step two is something like Operation Warp Speed for the pandemics of the future. Once scientists have the resources to identify and track viruses with the gravest pandemic potential, a consortium of countries led by the U.S. should fund Phase 1 and Phase 2 trials around the world to test new vaccines against them."_ https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/04/how-pandemic-proof-world/618682/ [2021-04-27 22:12:19] [Eddie Holmes] More from the journo. The billion dollar question is whether any of the animals in all this are being tested? [2021-04-27 22:12:30] [Eddie Holmes] "Google tranz of a story below about how a lot of the meat byproduct gets churned back into the restaurant industry, similar to what the HSI had found. I've been able to document four mink farms in Hubei, and a musk rat farm I thought that was mink [closed Jan 17, 2020, mysteriously]. On another couple of notes - there is a pangolin breeding operation just two hours drive north of Wuhan. It's connected to some companies here in Shenzhen that trade in plastics internationally, so going to look into that here, as well as a TCM company up in Hubei. Scales are often imported mixed into bags of wires and plastic pieces according to some of the seizure stories I've seen in the past. May be nothing though. In Yunnan I've been able to document 16 pangolin breeding operations that were active before the outbreak. There are a couple that are in or close to Yongde County which supplied bamboo rat meat to the Huanan market, according to the China-WHO study report. Almost ALL of these are mixed breeding operations susceptible to cross infections. Here's a sample: 1. Pangolin breeding; livestock breeding and sales 2. Breeding and sales of civet cat, bamboo rat, porcupine, wild boar, pangolin, muntjac, pheasant, turtledove, hare. 3. Artificial breeding of muntjac, sika deer, wild goose, golden pheasant, pangolin, forest musk deer, porcupine. 4. farming of pigs, cattle, sheep, donkeys, fish, pangolins, hedgehogs, bamboo rats, chickens; 5. just pangolin, company cancelled in September 2020, 6. black bears, brown bears, red deer, egrets, swans, pangolins, mandarin ducks, bamboo rats, porcupines, peacocks, livestock, poultry , Aquatic products breeding and sales; 7. pangolin, livestock, poultry breeding and sales 8. Black bear, brown bear, red deer, sika deer, egret, swan, pangolin, mandarin duck, bamboo rat, porcupine, peacock, livestock, poultry, and aquatic products breeding and sales 9. YONGDE pangolins are domesticated, propagated, and sold; pigs, chickens, cattle, and sheep are raised and sold 10. breeding and sales of cattle, porcupines and pangolins; 11. patent for artificial pangolin breeding 12. [near Yongde] breeding of cattle, sheep, pigs, chickens, and bees; breeding and sales of bamboo rats, muntjac and pangolins; 13. [near Yongde] chicken, duck, goose, pig, cow, sheep, donkey, bee Breeding; bamboo rat, deer, and pangolin