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[thread - ID: 2021-03-14 16:34:00] @Eddie Holmes Is `B` synthesising and rescuing the genome sequence? [2021-03-15 00:29:49] [Andrew Rambaut] [thread - ID: 2021-03-14 16:34:00] @Eddie Holmes Otherwise black arrow is the critical one that is not labelled or discussed - that is the chance that a sample is collected with human transmissible virus that is at high enough viral load and fresh enough that the virus is still alive. [2021-03-15 00:30:36] [Eddie Holmes] [thread - ID: 2021-03-14 16:34:00] @Eddie Holmes Not sure, but it involves passing the virus from people to humans. [2021-03-15 00:34:16] [Andrew Rambaut] [thread - ID: 2021-03-14 16:34:00] @Eddie Holmes I think the unlikeliness of getting a 'live' sample back to the lab from a collecting trip is a major unmentioned issue. And if we get into synthesising genomes and constructing viruses then that suggests a major research project that was secret for no good reason. [2021-03-15 01:28:04] [Eddie Holmes] Swiss news about us: https://www.nzz.ch/wissenschaft/coronavirus-genom-eng-mit-sars-cov-2-verwandter-vi[...]ren -analysiert-ld.1605598?mktcid=smch&mktcval=twpost_2021-03-12 [2021-03-15 04:54:55] [Robert Garry] [thread - ID: 2021-03-14 16:34:00] @Eddie Holmes Yes undiscussed black arrow very important- Very good points! You wouldn't have much incentive to try and culture until you knew there was a virus and had at least enuff sequence data to suggest it was interesting. Plus if you culture you tend to lose the FCS and the QTQTNS landing pad. Culturing also is going to move you to BSL3 - no undergrads touching their faces. The black arrow moves it into tinfoil hat territory in that you then clearly are saying that they knew they had something and chose not to tell anyone. [2021-03-15 04:55:46] [Robert Garry] Nice job by the swiss reporter! [2021-03-15 05:10:58] [Robert Garry] [thread - ID: 2021-03-14 16:34:00] @Eddie Holmes PLus - at the same time Alina is saying - well it's been over a year why haven't you found the reservoir, it must have come from a lab - she also is saying that we must all stop looking for the reservoir because that activity is too dangerous and we may start a new pandemic. [2021-03-15 08:01:13] [Robert Garry] https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202103/1218349.shtml [2021-03-15 10:00:53] [Robert Garry] hmmmmhttps://dailycaller.com/2021/03/15/ecohealth-stevens-amendment-complaint-wuhan-lab/