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[2021-02-06 17:47:47] [Eddie Holmes] So, she's doing all this on federal funded time. There's so much it's not after hours work. [2021-02-06 17:50:34] [Kristian Andersen] HFSP - https://www.linkedin.com/in/alina-chan/ [2021-02-06 17:52:09] [Eddie Holmes] Perhaps I could ask the Broad Director if it's appropriate for all this to be done on the Broad's and HFSP time? [2021-02-06 17:53:18] [Kristian Andersen] Yup - and to be honest, I'm not sure HFSP would be happy about this... [2021-02-06 17:54:14] [Eddie Holmes] Perhaps I should say that I am following up with them? [2021-02-06 17:55:15] [Kristian Andersen] Not actually sure she's HFSP anymore - so probably NIH finds (although, no where to find out, since those would have gone to Ben). [shared file(s): Screen Shot 2021-02-06 at 5.54.19 PM.png] [2021-02-06 17:55:41] [Kristian Andersen] [very relevant project to figure out SC2 origins btw...] [2021-02-06 17:56:25] [Eddie Holmes] Ok. I'll think about how to do this. [2021-02-06 18:50:12] [Eddie Holmes] This implies that the WIV will be given the all clear https://apnews.com/article/china-granted-who-full-access-wuhan-52dae25c21db7c80c404251e481f88bc [2021-02-07 01:00:33] [Robert Garry] Andrew put his finger on the pivotal point. A lab origin of SC2 is possible *ONLY IF WIV ALREADY* had SC2 or a virus 99% similar to SC2. The other so-called lab theories, like 1. the Steve Hilton theory that you could cobble together SC2 from a bit of GD pango spliced onto RATG13 or 2. the Alina theory that passaging RatG13 on human cells/hACE transgenics gets you SC2 are as Kristian says strictly amateur hour or virologist cosplay. I*F WIV ALREADY* had SC2 or a virus 99% similar to SC2 and was working on it then Shi is the greatest cover-up artist ever. A true magician the likes of whom the world has never seen. If so, RaTG13 is the ultimate magician's rabbit - cute, distracting and totally a sleight of hand. Hey look over there - RatG13 is the closest we got. Stated another way - the only way SC2 is a product of GOF research is if WIV had preSC2 aka the 99% progenitor already. Eddie has identified what should be the goal of the WHO team: clarity. Will we get it? [2021-02-07 01:12:24] [Andrew Rambaut] Which is why people saying that a lab origin is not a conspiracy theory are completely wrong - including Bloom, Bedford etc. If it was in fact a lab origin then there was SC2 progenitor in WIV or where-ever and there has been a conspiracy to hide that fact. The problem with that is that prior to the emergence of SC2 there would have been no reason to hide the fact the virus existed and was being worked on.