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the Chinese find the animal origin George will have in Nature/NEJM without any involvement of WHO. The latter will likely just have to deliver a fairly meaningless report. [2020-11-27 13:44:41] [Robert Garry] Thanks Eddie - hard to keep up with the cheap shots at PO1. I do recall some spurious report of Italian serorectivity in 2019 https://www.reuters.com/article/health-coronavirus-italy-timing/researchers-find-coronavirus-was-circulatingin-italy-earlier-than-th I- that's cross-reactivity plus hype and another example of amateur hour. Lots of people are finding SARS2 seroreactivity here and there - not a big shock really given that we have had at least 4 CoVs and likely a lot more spreading in humans for a long time. [2020-11-27 14:08:22] [Eddie Holmes] Indeed - lots of cheap shots at PO1. I already complained to the French authors about aspects of that paper and some clear errors. If I remember, the Italians found 14% seropositivity in September 2019. Yeah, right. [2020-11-27 16:40:57] [Eddie Holmes] Confidential from Weifeng: "By the way, we just identified a number of SARS-CoV-2 like CoVs. One is ~93% similar to SARS-CoV-2 and some of them are related to pangolin-derived CoVs. We are still working on this project to validate them. It would likely take approximately 4~5 weeks to finish this project. Anyway, I will keep you updated." [2020-11-27 17:08:42] [Eddie Holmes] These are bat samples. [2020-11-27 17:16:53] [Kristian Andersen] Very interesting! [2020-11-28 06:20:19] [Robert Garry] hmmm [shared file(s): image.png] [2020-11-28 07:33:43] [Kristian Andersen] Interesting... [2020-11-28 08:36:01] [Robert Garry] Drosten has a point - Daszak on both committees - good at hype -lightweight on the science. Baric not on either committee either - actually does CoVGoF (not to be confused with covfefe - maybe trump's 2017 secret signal to the ccp to release the big one?) so at least not a gift to the tinfoils. Big question - was Deep Throat left off of both committees? [2020-11-28 09:58:56] [Robert Garry] @Andrew Rambaut Delta69/70 likely is part of a neutralizing epitope in the NTD https://www.cell.com/cell/fulltext/S0 092-8674(20)30757-1?_returnURL=https%3A%2F%2Flinkinghub.elsevier.com%2Fretrieve%2Fpii%2FS009286742 0307571%3Fshowall%3Dtrue#supplementaryMaterial [2020-11-28 10:01:35] [Robert Garry] check the COV57 neut Mab [2020-11-28 13:53:30]