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Did Xander make this origami? [2020-09-25 06:57:59] [Kristian Andersen] Beautiful! [2020-09-25 12:16:42] [Robert Garry] https://www.ft.com/content/b782f666-6847-4487-986c-56d3f5e46c0b [2020-09-25 12:18:06] [Robert Garry] Interesting article NIH awarded a contract to CSU to grow it's own challenge strain. [2020-09-25 12:18:43] [Kristian Andersen] Yup, saw that yesterday - still not sure what I feel about it :wink: [2020-09-25 12:27:06] [Robert Garry] Angie_Rasmussen others still not a fan of it. Your way - small 30 people no placebo trials would be a good screen IMO. High Risk - High Reward US still losing ~1000 per day. [2020-09-25 12:30:49] [Robert Garry] I am not a big fan of the way the RCTs are being managed - not one bit. 30-60,000 people being told to go out and get themselves infected is less ethical than the controlled human challenges - just my opinion. [2020-09-25 12:51:56] [Kristian Andersen] Yeah, I'm not a fan of the RCTs either - I don't think they'll tell us what we need to know robustly and quickly enough. I kinda liked the German experiment where they set up relatively high-risk settings (during a concert) to better understand how transmission works. So a strategy that I kinda like here would be akin to a "COVID Party" strictly with people that are vaccinated - no control group. No need to figure out dosing, isolates, etc., which is far from trivial. [2020-09-25 13:06:47] [Robert Garry] :beer::beer::beer::beer::beer: would probably make the experiment work better. [2020-09-25 13:07:00] [Robert Garry] But I really like the idea. [2020-09-25 13:08:15] [Kristian Andersen] I think *any* party in the UK involves copious amounts of exactly that, so that goes without saying... :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye: [2020-09-25 18:53:49] [Eddie Holmes] This is now being put in mail boxes in Sydney: [shared file(s): IMG_2538.JPG, IMG_2537.JPG] [2020-09-25 19:36:49] [Kristian Andersen]