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There was a lot of discussion about whether aerosol
transmission was possible, and in the 2003 outbreak,
toilets can result in aerosolized feces, and in Hong Kong
it infected, I don't know, 400 people in a single apartment
complex, and the plume spread across to two other apartment
complexes. So if you think about the toilets in airplanes,
the first thing you think of is you worry about potential
aerosol and affecting everybody on the plane. So that was
the discussion. That lasted about an hour.
I did participate in that call and discussion. So did
he. My understanding is they put in barriers to prevent
aerosolization from the bathrooms, based on that call.
Then the next time was in his office, on the 13th or
the 11th, sometimes between the 11th and 13th.
So those are the times. So I personally think his
comments are pretty accurate. Let's be clear.
Coronaviruses were not the lead pathogen that caught the
interest of the director of the NIH probably until 2019.
MS. SALAZAR: Okay. But had you emailed with him back
and forth? Surely he knew who you were. Was it your
understanding that he requested the meeting with you on the
11th or 13th?
DR. BARIC: I'm sure that once somebody gave him the
paper, he wanted to talk to me. But again, you know, I
have trouble remembering names. The number of people he
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| baric_ti:utt:01129 | 2026-04-10 | transcript segment | 134–135 |
| baric_ti:utt:01130 | 2026-04-10 | transcript segment | 135 |
| baric_ti:utt:01131 | 2026-04-10 | transcript segment | 135–136 |