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Baric Transcribed Interview (Redacted), pp.84-85 · baric_ti:utt:00748

Date: 2026-04-10 09:00 (day precision)
Type: transcript segment · interview
recipient: Christina Salazar, Harry Kazenoff, David T. Lambeth III, William Henderson, Clark Ervin, Jake Greenberg
speaker: Ralph S. Baric
Topics: Vaccines

It's a lower probability virus. Okay. So for a pan-coronavirus vaccine you have pan-coronavirus beta coronavirus vaccines and alpha coronavirus vaccines. So this is an alpha coronavirus. So the only thing that people have really worked on extensively are pan-beta coronavirus vaccines, focused heavily on SARS coronavirus and MERS coronavirus. So I don't imagine that that would be included in any pan-beta coronavirus vaccine. Now, for pan-alpha coronavirus vaccines, the classic human coronaviruses are 229E and LN63. SADS would be something that you might want to consider. But the fact of DC.Scheduling@LexitasLegal.com the matter is that those viruses, in general, in Clade 1, in alpha-coronavirus group have been much less well studied. And so the threat potential and where that exists really is a guess.

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So for a pan-coronavirus vaccine you have pan-coronavirus beta coronavirus vaccines and alpha coronavirus vaccines.	own voice, substantive	speaker_own	asserts
So the only thing that people have really worked on extensively are pan-beta coronavirus vaccines, focused heavily on SARS coronavirus and MERS coronavirus.	own voice, substantive	speaker_own	asserts
So I don't imagine that that would be included in any pan-beta coronavirus vaccine.	quoted / not their view	hypothetical conditional framing	asserts
Now, for pan-alpha coronavirus vaccines, the classic human coronaviruses are 229E and LN63.	own voice, substantive	speaker_own	asserts

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So for a pan-coronavirus vaccine you have pan-coronavirus beta coronavirus vaccines and alpha coronavirus vaccines.

own voice, substantive

speaker_own

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So the only thing that people have really worked on extensively are pan-beta coronavirus vaccines, focused heavily on SARS coronavirus and MERS coronavirus.

own voice, substantive

speaker_own

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So I don't imagine that that would be included in any pan-beta coronavirus vaccine.

quoted / not their view

hypothetical conditional framing

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Now, for pan-alpha coronavirus vaccines, the classic human coronaviruses are 229E and LN63.

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speaker_own

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2026-04-10 09:00 Ralph S. Baric open

I mean, they had a virus that caused 99 percent mortality in piglets that could destroy their swine industry, so obviously it was important for them to develop DC.Scheduling@LexitasLegal.com the reagents that they could use to develop countermeasures and vaccinate swine. The other issue, just to go on on that, you know, it's hard to imagine a better reservoir species for emerging virus than a swine. And the swine population, they have billions of swine in China, so you have this massive reservoir. And you have a virus that drops into those, and that virus can use, although not very well, it can use the human receptor for entry.
2026-04-10 09:00 Christina Salazar open

So I've seen SADS come up a lot when people are talking about pan-corona vaccines.
2026-04-10 09:00 Ralph S. Baric open

I wouldn't include it in a pan-corona vaccine because --
2026-04-10 09:00 Christina Salazar open

Am I mistaking it with PEDV?
2026-04-10 09:00 Ralph S. Baric

It's a lower probability virus. Okay. So for a pan-coronavirus vaccine you have pan-coronavirus beta coronavirus vaccines and alpha coronavirus vaccines. So this is an alpha coronavirus. So the only thing that people have really worked on extensively are pan-beta coronavirus vaccines, focused heavily on SARS coronavirus and MERS coronavirus. So I don't imagine that that would be included in any pan-beta coronavirus vaccine. Now, for pan-alpha coronavirus vaccines, the classic human coronaviruses are 229E and LN63. SADS would be something that you might want to consider. But the fact of DC.Scheduling@LexitasLegal.com the matter is that those viruses, in general, in Clade 1, in alpha-coronavirus group have been much less well studied. And so the threat potential and where that exists really is a guess.
2026-04-10 09:00 Christina Salazar open

And then where does PEDV -- what is PEDV?
2026-04-10 09:00 Ralph S. Baric open

What?
2026-04-10 09:00 Christina Salazar open

P-E-D-V.
2026-04-10 09:00 Ralph S. Baric open

Oh, porcine epidemic diarrhea virus.

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