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Baric Transcribed Interview (Redacted), p.67 · baric_ti:utt:00570

Date: 2026-04-10 09:00 (day precision)
Type: transcript segment · interview
recipient: Christina Salazar, Harry Kazenoff, David T. Lambeth III, William Henderson, Clark Ervin, Jake Greenberg
speaker: Ralph S. Baric

I would say it's more likely to be Peter Daszak.

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2026-04-10 09:00 Ralph S. Baric open

He's attributed that comment to me rather than other people.
2026-04-10 09:00 Christina Salazar open

On the February 3rd call?
2026-04-10 09:00 Ralph S. Baric open

Yeah.
2026-04-10 09:00 Christina Salazar open

Who was it?
2026-04-10 09:00 Ralph S. Baric

I would say it's more likely to be Peter Daszak.
2026-04-10 09:00 Christina Salazar open

Okay. So was that something that Peter Daszak expressed on the call?
2026-04-10 09:00 Ralph S. Baric open

I recall that people challenged the idea that it could be a lab leak.
2026-04-10 09:00 Christina Salazar open

But at that point you were not -- I think you've rated it as more likely natural, but you weren't -- what would you rate it?
2026-04-10 09:00 Ralph S. Baric open

I never ruled out lab leak possibility. I don't see how anyone can. And the reason that is, is that they've published papers saying that they did their work at BSL-2. Biological Safety Level 2 is less stringent than Biological Safety Level 3. So there are many more laboratory-acquired infections at BSL-2 than at BSL-3. And so if you're working with viruses than use human receptors and growing human cells, and you're doing it at BSL-2, you DC.Scheduling@LexitasLegal.com cannot ever conclusively say that there was not a laboratory leak.