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Baric Transcribed Interview (Redacted), p.53 · baric_ti:utt:00411

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Date
2026-04-10 09:00 (day precision)
Type
transcript segment · interview
recipient
Christina Salazar, Harry Kazenoff, David T. Lambeth III, William Henderson, Clark Ervin, Jake Greenberg
speaker
Ralph S. Baric
It is in purgatory, yes.

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  1. 2026-04-10 09:00 Ralph S. Baric open
    Well, as told to me, as told to Fang Li, actually, there is one experiment that they think needs to be reviewed by the new committee that is formed after the DC.Scheduling@LexitasLegal.com Trump administration formed that committee.
  2. 2026-04-10 09:00 Christina Salazar open
    Which hasn't been formed.
  3. 2026-04-10 09:00 Ralph S. Baric open
    That's correct.
  4. 2026-04-10 09:00 Christina Salazar open
    So it's indefinitely paused.
  5. 2026-04-10 09:00 Ralph S. Baric
    It is in purgatory, yes.
  6. 2026-04-10 09:00 Christina Salazar open
    Okay. And what is the work, specifically?
  7. 2026-04-10 09:00 Ralph S. Baric open
    Most of the work was on mouse hepatitis virus. One of the aims included some merbecoviruses, specifically two merbecoviruses called MERS-422 and MjHKU4. And there's some mouse data in there that they want to have reviewed.
  8. 2026-04-10 09:00 Christina Salazar open
    Is there a process for --
  9. 2026-04-10 09:00 Ralph S. Baric open
    Is there a process? I have no idea. All I know is that the Trump administration has formed a committee to come up with final policy recommendations for what is gain-of-function and what's not. And so in the grant, because there was no structure except the existing 2016 structure, we said depending on however those reviews work, we will work within the context of the new structure, because we have no idea of what they're going to say is GOF or not.

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