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Baric Transcribed Interview (Redacted), p.50 · baric_ti:utt:00385

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Date
2026-04-10 09:00 (day precision)
Type
transcript segment · interview
recipient
Christina Salazar, Harry Kazenoff, David T. Lambeth III, William Henderson, Clark Ervin, Jake Greenberg
speaker
Ralph S. Baric
Yes, that's correct.

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  1. 2026-04-10 09:00 Ralph S. Baric open
    I don't know what was in this grant. My guess is that USAID paid for surveillance work that picked up samples that ultimately were used with, you know, in terms of sequence discovery and that sort of thing that we used, and they wanted to acknowledge the fact that the discovery portion of the grant, that that contributed to the discovery portion of the grant. But again, this is not my grant, and it's not in the RO1 that they had with Daszak and Shi were not my grant, so I don't know the intricacies of what was in each and why they felt it was appropriate.
  2. 2026-04-10 09:00 Christina Salazar open
    In the paper there is a section that makes it clear that the work was done prior to the pause. Is that right?
  3. 2026-04-10 09:00 Ralph S. Baric open
    Prior to what?
  4. 2026-04-10 09:00 Christina Salazar open
    Prior to the pause.
  5. 2026-04-10 09:00 Ralph S. Baric
    Yes, that's correct.
  6. 2026-04-10 09:00 Christina Salazar open
    Why was that statement included? Was it because there was a concern that it could be perceived that there was gain-of-function work occurring after the pause?
  7. 2026-04-10 09:00 Ralph S. Baric open
    I don't recall the exact reason why we put that statement in. It may have been because the journal wanted it written in that it was started prior to the pause. It's technically accurate and honest, and I think that's the most important thing for the reason why the DC.Scheduling@LexitasLegal.com statement is in the paper.
  8. 2026-04-10 09:00 Christina Salazar open
    Was all the work done before the pause, or was it that it was --
  9. 2026-04-10 09:00 Ralph S. Baric open
    It was 90 percent done before the pause. We had resurrected the virus, I think, in, I don't know, February, March, April of 2014, and had done a lot of work on them.

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