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Baric Transcribed Interview (Redacted), p.44 · baric_ti:utt:00314

Date: 2026-04-10 09:00 (day precision)
Type: transcript segment · interview
recipient: Ralph S. Baric, Christina Salazar, Harry Kazenoff, William Henderson, Clark Ervin, Jake Greenberg
speaker: David T. Lambeth III

We certainly have emails confirming. Of course, that's all we have that they were all --

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2026-04-10 09:00 Christina Salazar open

Did you ever ask her?
2026-04-10 09:00 Ralph S. Baric open

All I told her is that those mice needed to be destroyed.
2026-04-10 09:00 Christina Salazar open

And did she confirm that they were?
2026-04-10 09:00 Ralph S. Baric open

They confirmed with the university.
2026-04-10 09:00 David T. Lambeth III

We certainly have emails confirming. Of course, that's all we have that they were all --
2026-04-10 09:00 Christina Salazar open

Yeah. How do you confirm that, you know, mice were --
2026-04-10 09:00 Ralph S. Baric open

Yeah, how do you confirm that?
2026-04-10 09:00 Christina Salazar open

Okay. I mean, so there was generally a sense of trust prior?
2026-04-10 09:00 Ralph S. Baric open

Well, the whole purpose, again, of open science is to ensure integrity of the process. And I think that was not a validation of the integrity. That was inappropriate behavior by Chinese scientists.