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Baric Transcribed Interview (Redacted), pp.40-41 · baric_ti:utt:00273

Date: 2026-04-10 09:00 (day precision)
Type: transcript segment · interview
recipient: Christina Salazar, Harry Kazenoff, David T. Lambeth III, William Henderson, Clark Ervin, Jake Greenberg
speaker: Ralph S. Baric

No. I mean, by the time she sent it to us we'd already synthesized the genes and had them and started DC.Scheduling@LexitasLegal.com to make viruses by that time, so we didn't ever actually use the plasma.

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2026-04-10 09:00 Ralph S. Baric open

No, no. That's actually a piece of DNA on a filter paper.
2026-04-10 09:00 Christina Salazar open

On a filter. So is that just mailed?
2026-04-10 09:00 Ralph S. Baric open

It was mailed.
2026-04-10 09:00 Christina Salazar open

Okay. It doesn't have to be kept at a certain temperature. It's just regular mail.
2026-04-10 09:00 Ralph S. Baric

No. I mean, by the time she sent it to us we'd already synthesized the genes and had them and started DC.Scheduling@LexitasLegal.com to make viruses by that time, so we didn't ever actually use the plasma.
2026-04-10 09:00 Christina Salazar open

And so do you have to report this kind of stuff to NIH if they're funding portions of a grant, or the whole grant? Because we're aware of --
2026-04-10 09:00 Ralph S. Baric open

This is before or after? Certainly the NIH knows because a paper, a progress report will have the existence of the viruses that are there. And then it's published, and NIH has access to the paper, as well. So they get this information, yes.
2026-04-10 09:00 Christina Salazar open

But it's not something that you --
2026-04-10 09:00 Ralph S. Baric open

I don't believe there's a formalized process for DNA on a filter paper. If there was a pathogen, for example, then there are intricate processes involved.

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