Private channel session 1391

22 messages over 2h 46m, 2021-05-17 – 2021-05-17.

A “conversation” here is an activity session — a run of messages with under 60 minutes of silence inside it. The channel had no native conversation boundaries.

2021-05-17 11:53 Robert F. Garry open PDF p.825

The length of that Medium Post though - seems like the start of yet another book for sure.
2021-05-17 12:34 Robert F. Garry open PDF p.825

@Andrew Rambaut Thanks - WHO folks asked again about "peer-review" of the post so I may cut this to 1000 words and submit as Tech Report in response to Bloomshit. Just getting reaction from Bloom and Relman would be worth the effort.
2021-05-17 12:52 Robert F. Garry open PDF p.825

https://www.politifact.com/article/2021/may/17/debating-origins-covid-19-virus-what-we-know-what-/
2021-05-17 12:53 Robert F. Garry open PDF p.825

Lots of names in this article.
2021-05-17 12:54 Kristian G. Andersen open PDF p.825

Haven't read it yet, but from the summary: "... researchers are paying more attention to the possibility that the virus somehow leaked from the lab, though there's still nothing conclusive." Things like that pisses me off - "nothing conclusive" really has to be "no evidence".
2021-05-17 13:19 Robert F. Garry open PDF p.825

Exactly I did the best I could with them - Relman, Alina, eDim the whole circus got to weigh in.
2021-05-17 13:29 Edward C. Holmes open PDF p.826

This is all still the fall-out from Science thing. Nothing new. That's why we need to do the evidence based doc. Don't get me started on Butt Lesion...he just craves attention and will say anything to get it. He told the BBC/PBSfilmmaker that he knew about COVID in mid December. There are so many stories of the dirt he has done. I wonder what Daszak thinks?
2021-05-17 13:38 Edward C. Holmes open PDF p.826

Perhaps we can write send an Erratum to Nature saying his name was added by mistake and should be removed?
2021-05-17 13:59 Kristian G. Andersen open PDF p.826

Butt Lesion will regret this - he's going to look like the biggest idiot. Yes, need to nail down the evidence doc. Should we have a call to discuss - we 100% need this and probably soon.
2021-05-17 14:10 Edward C. Holmes open PDF p.826

Yes, happy to do that.
2021-05-17 14:18 Kristian G. Andersen open PDF p.826

How about Thursday? Earliest time that works Down under.
2021-05-17 14:19 Edward C. Holmes open PDF p.826

So Friday morning my time? Yes, I can do that.
2021-05-17 14:21 Andrew Rambaut open PDF p.826

I could make that I think.
2021-05-17 14:25 Kristian G. Andersen open PDF p.826

Yeah. How about this? https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html?iso=20210520T200000&p1=2 40&p2=136&p3=178&p4=770 [shared file(s): Screen Shot 2021-05-17 at 14.25.12.png]
2021-05-17 14:26 Kristian G. Andersen open PDF p.826

I'm fine with later too, but don't know how late is too late for Andrew
2021-05-17 14:28 Edward C. Holmes open PDF p.826

Any chance 30 minutes later?
2021-05-17 14:29 Kristian G. Andersen open PDF p.826

Works for me
2021-05-17 14:30 Edward C. Holmes open PDF p.826

Need to make my tea etc
2021-05-17 14:31 Robert F. Garry open PDF p.827

Be careful with that tea Eddie...
2021-05-17 14:32 Edward C. Holmes open PDF p.827

It was a gift from Xi
2021-05-17 14:35 Kristian G. Andersen open PDF p.827

I assume OK with everybody so I'll set it up?
2021-05-17 14:39 Edward C. Holmes open PDF p.827

:+1: